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They are different necks not just for what you said but the American Standards have a Bi-Flex truss rod in them that can adjust the neck both concave and convex curvature to the neck the Hwy1 neck does not. They are both good necks but there is a reason the Standard neck would cost more if someone was selling a one.

simply because of truss rod thats it.
the american standard strat necks are not in any way
superior over the highway ones 2007 to present necks.
or anything else for that matter.

Thats cool. Me I like the Bi flex after you set enough of them for people you get to like they way you can bow it back and forth doing setup. And I do like the staggerd tuners and the rolled board. They both have the same finnish on the back but the finish is different on the headstock front.
Curious what feature is it you feel make the Hwy1 neck superior?

They are both quality necks but they are different in several ways and feel is a personal preference which also can differ some from guitar to guitar.
Some may like the extra features of the standard and some may not.

the highway one necks feel alot better to me
and they are also faster.


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Im building my own guitar for the first time. Sort of my own custom job, but on a budget. I've played many guitars, including a Hwy1 at a store, but that wont give me the feedback like what a Hwy1 owner can provide.

I love the vintage look of the Hwy1, as well as the rosewood playability. Im not so sure about the jumbo frets, but appreciate them in theory. I also dont want to end up the somebody's attempt to sell a cheap alternative to the reall deal, if you know what I mean.

The double action truss would be a plus, but I admit I've never needed to adjust my other guitars, including the strat Im replacing. So I doubt I'll need that kind of control unless the neck is more cheaply made and prone to warping or other movements.

Thanks all for the comments. Keep the coming.

When building a guitar there is no way that you will be able to put a neck on and not have to adjust it. That and every guitar I have had I have tweaked it to were I like. One reason many people think a neck feels bad is because it needs a simple setup. I have done setups and had people shock how much easier there guitar played. Many did not no any better because they had never done so. Thats why people who can afford it have guitars Pleked for 175 to 200 that supposed to be the ultimate setup. One day I am going to get one done and compare it.

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Then get the American standard neck it is a better neck!!! I just can't understand how anyone can believe a cheaper Fender neck or guitar can be better than the more expensive model. It does not make any common sense. They may be good but not better!


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fhopkins wrote:
Then get the american standard neck it is a better neck!!!

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A wise one you are fhop :wink: You beleive in Deja vu?

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cvilleira wrote:
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Then get the american standard neck it is a better neck!!!

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A wise one you are fhop :wink: You beleive in Deja vu?

Yes!!! :lol: I just don't understand that type of reasoning!!


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Then get the American standard neck it is a better neck!!! I just can't understand how anyone can believe a cheaper Fender neck or guitar can be better than the more expensive model. It does not make any common sense. They may be good but not better!

mr. flopkins as far as craftmanship the highway one is not
a cheaper neck. the only differnce is the truss rod and rolled
fretts and to alot of us that means nothing. there were no rolled
fretts in the early 70's strats and those guitars made some of the greatast
music in history. so it is not fare to say that the the highway one necks are cheap just because theres no truss rodd or rolled fretts. and in ending if you surf other sites on these two guitars you will find a lot of guitarist pro and none pro who prefer the highway one over the new american standard.


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pfopkins....

Your comments suggest you are frustrated and impatient with this thread. I hope you dont think Im suggesting the Hwy1 neck is superior. I am not trying to make that case at all.

If I had my druthers and was not concerned about cost, I'd buy an American Deluxe w/rosewood, a 12" radius and Dunlop 6105 frets and locking tuners. But I dont really want to spend $450-$600 on this neck. Moreover, just because something is more expensive doesnt mean its a smarter purchase.

Im trying to learn about the components and buy intelligently. That's all. If the Hwy1 neck is, in fact, just an American Strat neck, with a couple minor design alterations, then it may be a superior buy for the money. The Hwy1's are going for 70% of the AmStands and 50% of the AmDlx, after all.

So, if you have something actually descriptive about the necks that will help me learn about their playability and quality, let me know.

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hey big i have both strats. and my opion the highway one
has much better tone versatility and the neck is faster than the
american standard. the truss rodd and rolled edges on the fretts
means nothing to me. it all depends what you like in the end.
take care.


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BigJay wrote:
pfopkins....

Your comments suggest you are frustrated and impatient with this thread. I hope you dont think Im suggesting the Hwy1 neck is superior. I am not trying to make that case at all.

If I had my druthers and was not concerned about cost, I'd buy an American Deluxe w/rosewood, a 12" radius and Dunlop 6105 frets and locking tuners. But I dont really want to spend $450-$600 on this neck. Moreover, just because something is more expensive doesnt mean its a smarter purchase.

Im trying to learn about the components and buy intelligently. That's all. If the Hwy1 neck is, in fact, just an American Strat neck, with a couple minor design alterations, then it may be a superior buy for the money. The Hwy1's are going for 70% of the AmStands and 50% of the AmDlx, after all.

So, if you have something actually descriptive about the necks that will help me learn about their playability and quality, let me know.

Thanks.


just check the highway ones still sell between $825 and $750
also keep in mind this has alot to do with that the highway ones
come with no case. fender did that to keep the price down.
it has nothing to do with the craftmanship of the guitar.


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I do tend to get a little frustrated with these type of threads. Posters ask for opinions and if it's not the one they want then they start justifying. The same old statements about what Hendrix started out with etc. Your mind is already made up so do what you want and I really and truly hope you are satisfied. We had a poster on here once that claimed FMIC should not make any other models than the Highway one. It is a good first line American model but not the best. If it is for you get it and enjoy my friend!I am not the type to put down on anyone choice of guitar,but ....... never mind I'm wasting mine and your time. Have fun and enjoy whatever you do . I sincerely mean that. Cheers mate! :wink:

The neck of a guitar really has a small contribution to overall tone. Pickups, your left hand and mostly a good tube amp will make a huge difference! :) Peace!! 8)


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Fender makes so many different necks for that very reason.Because what feels good to one doesnt neccesary feel good to others.At first i wanted a Jimmy Vaughan and then i tried it out and hated the v neck.Since then i have had several guitars and now have a SRV which i love the neck on and a few American Strats.It took me a while to warm up to the modern c neck and especially love the new maple necks with the laquered fretboard,but in the end i realize not everone does and i try not to take it personal.One of the things i like that fender does is cater to so many of us.


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fhopkins wrote:
I do tend to get a little frustrated with these type of threads. Posters ask for opinions and if it's not the one they want then they start justifying. The same old statements about what Hendrix started out with etc. Your mind is already made up so do what you want and I really and truly hope you are satisfied. We had a poster on here once that claimed FMIC should not make any other models than the Highway one. It is a good first line American model but not the best. If it is for you get it and enjoy my friend!I am not the type to put down on anyone choice of guitar,but ....... never mind I'm wasting mine and your time. Have fun and enjoy whatever you do . I sincerely mean that. Cheers mate! :wink:

The neck of a guitar really has a small contribution to overall tone. Pickups, your left hand and mostly a good amp will make a huge difference! :) Peace!! 8)

Deja vu my Friend
I going to go down stairs and get my Son's Hwy1 and play it. I do no its a good guitar or it would not have been one of the six guitars I have bought for him the last few years. I must be missing something :shock: though.
It does have a nice 70 style peg head but diffrent frets from 70's though. Plus it does not have the veneer finger boards they used then or even the 3 bolt neck plate :shock: but it is a nice guitar and I would buy another without question.

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cvilleira wrote:
fhopkins wrote:
I do tend to get a little frustrated with these type of threads. Posters ask for opinions and if it's not the one they want then they start justifying. The same old statements about what Hendrix started out with etc. Your mind is already made up so do what you want and I really and truly hope you are satisfied. We had a poster on here once that claimed FMIC should not make any other models than the Highway one. It is a good first line American model but not the best. If it is for you get it and enjoy my friend!I am not the type to put down on anyone choice of guitar,but ....... never mind I'm wasting mine and your time. Have fun and enjoy whatever you do . I sincerely mean that. Cheers mate! :wink:

The neck of a guitar really has a small contribution to overall tone. Pickups, your left hand and mostly a good amp will make a huge difference! :) Peace!! 8)

Deja vu my Friend
I going to go down stairs and get my Son's Hwy1 and play it. I do no its a good guitar or it would not have been one of the six guitars I have bought for him the last few years. I must be missing something :shock: though.
It does have a nice 70 style peg head but diffrent frets from 70's though. Plus it does not have the veneer finger boards they used then or even the 3 bolt neck plate :shock: but it is a nice guitar and I would buy another without question.


You are absolutely right my friend! It is a very good guitar! 8)


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