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Thank you for steering me in the right direction on that!

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Hi there, I couldn't help notice your questions were much the same as mine when I bought my American Standard HSS early last year. My AS is a 2007 model so came with the S-1 switch. Only the deluxe models and above get the switch as standard these days. The S-1 switch is a nice feature and fun to play around with but would not be a deal breaker if it wasn't there. However the S-1 switch does make upgrading p/u's more difficult as it is located in the volume knob. So upgrading p/u's immediately would be costlier unless you are good with a soldering iron. On basic spec even the 2008 AS beats the H1 hands down. The AS is alot closer to an AS Deluxe than the H1.

I eventually went for the Sienna Sunburst, which is an Ash body and not the usual Alder. It was bit more expensive but is an absolutely beautiful guitar. The pick-ups are also a better spec than the H1 though I doubt there is much difference in tone but as it depends on so many factors and is a very personal thing you should decide what you like best for yourself. If I was to upgrade anything on the guitar I would fit locking tuners - Sperzel Trim-loks or Steinberger Gearless - though I haven't had any tuning problems with standard Grovers I would be more inlcined to use the whammy more if the strings were locked.

The one thing I must say is that the modern 'C' neck is superb - silky smooth and with the medium jumbo frets it is a dream to play. I also own a Gibson LP Standard, which although it has greater sustain because of the set neck mounting, is no where near as nice to play.

I play through a hughes & kettner statesman quad tube combo and it sounds superb whether clean or driven. Even the Tex-Mex single coils are plenty load enough to fill a village hall.

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Plus the American Standard has the micro-tilt neck and a 2 point trem instead of the 6 point which is more stable.


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I'd buy the American Standard over the Highway 1. Both are good guitars but the hardware on the American Standard is nicer.

The nitro finish on the Highway 1 will wear faster and "ding" easier if that is a consideration.

Both are USA made so you can't really go wrong.

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The six-screw vintage tremolo bridge just sold me on the Highway 1, You can keep the two pivot point tremolos. I like the vintage bridge for a couple of reasons. First, I can keep the Strat's characteristic tone with the vintage stamped saddles. Second, The six screw vintage tremolo's stay in tune much better than the guitars I own with the AS two-point tremolo's

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The six-screw vintage tremolo bridge just sold me on the Highway 1, You can keep the two pivot point tremolos. I like the vintage bridge for a couple of reasons. First, I can keep the Strat's characteristic tone with the vintage stamped saddles. Second, The six screw vintage tremolo's stay in tune much better than the guitars I own with the AS two-point tremolo's

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i agree with you. the highway ones are based on the
early 70's strats the highway one is more vintage look
and feel and better tone and sustain than the american strat.


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You think the Hwy 1 feels better as it is...or after getting it back from the Luthier?

I ask this because I tried two different ones at GC, and both felt like the frets were protruding about 1/16" off the edge of the fretboard on both sides. If not for that, I think it would be a fantastic feeling neck. Definitely a "C" shape that did'nt feel like a Louisville Slugger, but I'd still want to get clear laquer on the neck. I've always liked that on my strats, especially after it's been polished, it slides like wet glass.

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HarleyHexxe wrote:
The six-screw vintage tremolo bridge just sold me on the Highway 1, You can keep the two pivot point tremolos. I like the vintage bridge for a couple of reasons. First, I can keep the Strat's characteristic tone with the vintage stamped saddles. Second, The six screw vintage tremolo's stay in tune much better than the guitars I own with the AS two-point tremolo's

-Harley 8)

Harley the Hwy1's do not not have the High Mass bridge block in it though like the Amer. Standards to get the sustan I put a Callaham heavy in the Hwy and the sound changes nicely for 60.00. Callaham makes sone nice stuff that I use for people.

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HarleyHexxe wrote:
The six-screw vintage tremolo bridge just sold me on the Highway 1, You can keep the two pivot point tremolos. I like the vintage bridge for a couple of reasons. First, I can keep the Strat's characteristic tone with the vintage stamped saddles. Second, The six screw vintage tremolo's stay in tune much better than the guitars I own with the AS two-point tremolo's

-Harley 8)

Harley the Hwy1's do not not have the High Mass bridge block in it though like the Amer. Standards to get the sustan I put a Callaham heavy in the Hwy and the sound changes nicely for 60.00. Callaham makes sone nice stuff that I use for people.


Cvilleira,
Are you saying that the interia block is not the same as the 70's Strat's were? If they are the same mass as the older ones, I can live with that. In fact, I don't want an interia block with more mass, as it actually interrupts the tremolo's range of travel. That is the only possible complaint I have of my 1980 Strat. The extra mass in the intertia block actually stops me from diving the bar lower. I've toyed with the idea of routing the tremolo cavity to allow me to dive bomb the tremolo. What do you think?

-Harley 8)

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HarleyHexxe wrote:
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HarleyHexxe wrote:
The six-screw vintage tremolo bridge just sold me on the Highway 1, You can keep the two pivot point tremolos. I like the vintage bridge for a couple of reasons. First, I can keep the Strat's characteristic tone with the vintage stamped saddles. Second, The six screw vintage tremolo's stay in tune much better than the guitars I own with the AS two-point tremolo's

-Harley 8)

Harley the Hwy1's do not not have the High Mass bridge block in it though like the Amer. Standards to get the sustan I put a Callaham heavy in the Hwy and the sound changes nicely for 60.00. Callaham makes sone nice stuff that I use for people.


Cvilleira,
Are you saying that the interia block is not the same as the 70's Strat's were? If they are the same mass as the older ones, I can live with that. In fact, I don't want an interia block with more mass, as it actually interrupts the tremolo's range of travel. That is the only possible complaint I have of my 1980 Strat. The extra mass in the intertia block actually stops me from diving the bar lower. I've toyed with the idea of routing the tremolo cavity to allow me to dive bomb the tremolo. What do you think?

-Harley 8)

The space in which the block takes up are the same it is the mass weight.

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Cool, I'll have to look up Callaham then.

Thank you Cvilleira.

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As far as the saddles go,Fender went back to the vintage style saddles in 08 as part of the upgrade i addition to the new style case and a lighter undercoat of paint to help them resonate better.I certainly cant speak for all newer strats ,but mine has plenty of sustain and the tone is so much richer than the older American Series .I had an 01 American Series and the difference is like night and day.


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USA Standard! 8) Just for the spec sheet (read)


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USA Standard! 8) Just for the spec sheet (read)

+1 :wink:

How you doing there hop I hope you had good Holiday.

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USA Standard! 8) Just for the spec sheet (read)

+1 :wink:

How you doing there hop I hope you had good Holiday.

I had a great one! I got a new grandson and enjoyed being with my family! I hope you enjoyed yours as well my friend!! :)


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