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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:04 pm
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Alrighty you Luthiers out there, I need some advise cause I dont wanna mess this up. Although the guitar that has this issue is a Telecaster, I have gotten so much great advise and made some good friends on the strat Column, I didnt think it mattered if I posted this question here.

On my Tele body, which was given to me by my friend who had 3 of the same kind and I never had or did a Tele, I have a small crack in the neck cavity pocket it runs from the top down twords the body. Its about 2 1/2 inches long. It also extends right on ths side of the body where the neck pocket is, (all the same crack) It really isnt all that bad, when I try and pull it apart, it only opens up a 16th of an inch, MAYBE a little more, like I said, very small, but I want to get it solid before I start working on it. '

What would be the best product to use to get a good seal on this? A wood glue, epoxy, Super Glue? I am gonna be covering the repair when its fixed, I just need to know what would be the best product to use to get a solid seal. Thanks in advance for any help. Of the few things I have NOT done fixing guitars, mending a crack is one of them.

As you see by the body, you can see why its worth the fix. I am thinking about selling it, 2 reasons, 1 It will be a good while before I can get to it, and 2, If someone knows how to FULLY put a tele together, this would be one bad $@! project. Strats I can do with no problem, Teles with a bit more Drilling and routing and it would be a breese, I just dont want to mess up a beautiful body. Let me know if anyone is interested, if not, I am just gonna take my chances and get my friend to help with all the drilling and routing.

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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:19 pm
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You might try this. They have great glues for guitar use.
http://www.titebond.com/IntroPageTB.ASP ... ?prodcat=1

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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:06 am
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Hi FarmerMan

From that page of Titebond glues cvilleira linked to I'd probably go for the hide glue. I make my own from dry granules in a double-boiler cos that's how I was taught but I don't expect there's any particular advantage to that: I'm sure it's fine readymade in a bottle.

However, you need to be able to control the viscosity of it, because you want it fairly thin so's it'll wick right down into that crack. If it's a bit gloopy you can put a spoonful in something small, such as an eggcup, warm it from beneath and add some water to thin it.

Here's a couple of Stew-Mac's Trade Secrets pages about this kind of work. The first one is about repairing splits a bit like yours:

http://www.stewmac.com/tradesecrets/ts0 ... clk=125750

And this one is about hide glue in general. The stuff further down the page may be of use to you:

http://www.stewmac.com/tradesecrets/ts0 ... clk=194582

I'm not absolutely clear exactly how your crack is running, but I'd have thought the most difficult thing about this job will be finding a way to clamp the crack together while the glue dries...

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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:46 pm
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Aaawww, crack, schmack.

Just slather the pocket up with hide glue, slap the neck in, screw it down for added good measure, and you should never have a problem! :lol:

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However, you don't hear much about guys trying to glue in their bolt on necks, do you?

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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:47 am
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thanks for all the info guys, I should be havin this thing fixed up in no time and getting starting with the building process. :D

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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:26 am
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Hi FarmerMan

From that page of Titebond glues cvilleira linked to I'd probably go for the hide glue. I make my own from dry granules in a double-boiler cos that's how I was taught but I don't expect there's any particular advantage to that: I'm sure it's fine readymade in a bottle.

However, you need to be able to control the viscosity of it, because you want it fairly thin so's it'll wick right down into that crack. If it's a bit gloopy you can put a spoonful in something small, such as an eggcup, warm it from beneath and add some water to thin it.

Here's a couple of Stew-Mac's Trade Secrets pages about this kind of work. The first one is about repairing splits a bit like yours:

http://www.stewmac.com/tradesecrets/ts0 ... clk=125750

And this one is about hide glue in general. The stuff further down the page may be of use to you:

http://www.stewmac.com/tradesecrets/ts0 ... clk=194582

I'm not absolutely clear exactly how your crack is running, but I'd have thought the most difficult thing about this job will be finding a way to clamp the crack together while the glue dries...

Cheers - C

PS First post of 2009. Sleeves rolled up from the outset...!


That sure is a beautiful body Farmerman. I would tend to follow Ceri's advice and read the links he provided to stewmac.com They are a great source! Good luck and keep us posted on your project! :wink:


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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:43 pm
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Another reason for not using superglue (acrylonitrile) is that these glues have only been around for a couple of decades and it's not clear what the long term performance will be. Twenty years seems like a long time, but it's not long enough.

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