If you have extra dough to spend perhaps you might wanna consider installing the LSR nut....Schaller Locking Tuners+LSR=Match Made in Heaven...

But there's no way to convert to conventional nut after you install the LSR so take note...

I was thinking about it...in case my nut was the the thing causing my G string tunning issue. I still haven't gotten the Locking tunners yet, I'm waiting for payday. I read in another post that someone has the bearings come out and it out their guitar in the shop for a week. I have reservations about that kind of maintence. (LSR Nut)

As soon as I get the locking tuners and put them on, I'll keep everyone informed. Maybe even do some before, during, and after pics. I hope that will correct the issue. I won't know until I remove the string to look. As I mentioned as long as I leave my Tremelo alone, it stays in tune like a champ...so I haven't been using it.

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2012 American Deluxe
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2012 Marshall DSL 15 watt head

I think you made a good choice by just changing the tuners first since you have decided on it....
Funny that you mentioned about the ball bearing thingy cos when i got my Am Dlx HSS it had a faulty LSR nut and the bearings was in the hardcase....got it back to the dealer and they had it changed....i guess its all about inspecting the LSR when it was first installed.There are two bearing in each string slot and its being hold into position by sorta clip on each side.The bearings came off cos the clips was bent while string installation....i have the picture with me in the PC will post if i find it...
So far the LSR has not given me any issues since i had got the replacement.....

I have Sperzel locking tuners on three of my guitars, and I won't endorse them. Their quality is IMHO inconsistent.
I've never used Schallers locking tuners so I can't comment on them. I have used Gotoh locking tuners and they are very good.
One of my Strats has the stock vintage tuners, and a bone nut, and what I do with that one is I periodically put a tiny drop of Selmer Tuning Slide oil in the nut slots.
The G and B strings tend to go sharp on all the vintage tremolo's, but this helps it stay in tune with the stock set up. The problem is commonly in the nut.
-Harley

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Thanks for the input. I can go out and get the Tuning Slide Oil this weekend, and see if that works (Honestly I want the locking tuners for my guitar and have my wife's ok to get them so kinda hoping that it is the tuners.)

It would be next weekend before I could get the locking tuners...(payday is every 2 weeks for me).

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2012 American Deluxe
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1987 Fender Avalon Acoustic
2012 Marshall DSL 15 watt head

Go to a shop that sells Brass or Woodwind instruments primarily. I looked for this in stores that carry guitars and could'nt find it, the only things they had were the grease sticks ( like a tube of chapstick).
What you are looking for is a small white plastic squeeze bottle with red lettering, that reads:
Selmer Tuning Slide & Cork Grease
This is the liquid version that works better than the stick.

If you don't have the vintage strat tuners on your guitar, then locking tuners certainly won't hurt.
The pre CBS vintage style tuners work just as well as locking tuners for me, so I don't see any need to change them, and I do have an aggresive tremolo hand.

-Harley

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I have the Fender/Pings on now. I have never had a problem with the Pings before, however they were always in a guitar with a double locking tremelo. I will look in a Brass instrument shop for that Selmer Tuning Slide oil.

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2012 Marshall DSL 15 watt head

I don't think I've seen the Pings, but if they are like the other tuners where you have to wrap a few windings around the post, then the locking tuners will make a difference.
The vintage tuners I'm referring to are the ones with the hole in the center of the post that you can insert the end of the cut string, and wind about 3/4 of the way around the post before the string is up to tension. That was a brilliant design by Leo Fender IMHO.

-Harley

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They use ping inMIM guitars. Id get graphite to put in the nut. They have that at guitar shops, oil has a tendency to lose its vicosity after a while. You're going to want to put it in the nut, on the saddles, and you're goint to want to put it on the tremolo screws where they meet the tremolo plate. It its a 6 screw vintage; just unscrew them a 1/4 inch, put a little at the end of a Qtip, and spread it on the part of the srew that meets the bridge, make sure to get it under the head of the screw. If you have a 2 point tremolo, spread it in the groove ov the screws. Its about $6 a bottle, its a small bottle, but should last a long time because all you need is a very small amount. Its white, and if its still white after you're done spreading it, you used too much, it doesn't go bad or corrode metal like oil can. You should only have to put it on 3, or 4 times a year on the tremolo, depending on how much you use it, put in the nut every time you change strings because it usually ends up on te strings themselves. Use a toothpick, or a piece of the high E string to put it in the grooves of the nut.

Windwalker9649,

Thanks for the info about the Graphite, I'll keep it in mind. Yeah those Fender/Pings are also on the HWY 1 Stratocasters. I do have the Vintage Style 6 screw tremelo on mine.

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2007 Fender Highway 1
2012 American Deluxe
2015 MIM Dave Murray HHH
2010 Fender Blacktop
1987 Fender Avalon Acoustic
2012 Marshall DSL 15 watt head

+1 for the Fender/Schaller locking tuners. I had some very slight tuning issues on my Hwy One when I first got it. Since the installation of the new tuners, I have had zero problems with tuning. Best thing I did for my guitar. I also use a little bit of graphite from a pencil in the nut. Also, they provide very fast string changes: put the string through the hole, tighten the locking screw, bring the string up to tension, cut the excess string. Even if the tuners are not your problem, I still recommend getting them. They can only help, and also, they look great! Very high end looking piece of hardware.

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Ok I just ordered the Locking Tuners. I have a question about putting them on when they get here.

When I change strings, I put the new ones on one at a time as to not take too much tension off the neck. When I put on the new tuners, do I do the same thing, or just take all the strings off and replace the tuners in one swoop? Any suggestions?

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2007 Fender Highway 1
2012 American Deluxe
2015 MIM Dave Murray HHH
2010 Fender Blacktop
1987 Fender Avalon Acoustic
2012 Marshall DSL 15 watt head

Hi rkreisher: I wouldn't worry about removing the string tension - your neck can handle it fine during the time the work will take. I'm sure you will need to have all the old tuners off at the same time in order to get the new ones on nice and straight.

Off hand I can't remember the configuration of the little alignment screws on the Schallers in comparison to the old ones. But if you need new holes for those screws just be sure to drill them with the right sized bit (marked with a piece of tape on it for depth: you really don't want to come out the front of the headstock!). I remember Orvilleowner saying that he'd seen pegheads get split open by people trying to screw those tiny alignment screws in without making a hole first.

(As before, I'm probably mentioning that more for the benefit of those with less experience than yourself...)

Good luck - C

Ceri,

belphedeus posted a picture of what my headstock looks like on the 3rd post of this thread. That is the configuration of my current tuners and the holes already in place on my head stock. I do not foresee any drilling, however, if there is I will take it to my luthier for modifications, if necessary. Thank you for letting me know that it is ok to take the tension off all at once to change them out, I just didn't want to mess something up. Here is a pic of what I ordered:

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/ ... sku=361333

The picture is not the best and I just cannot tell if they are fitted for a lefty or righty headstock. I am right handed. When I ordered them, they didn't ask the direction of the holes. I hope it works. I keep everyone posted and post pics before and after.

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2007 Fender Highway 1
2012 American Deluxe
2015 MIM Dave Murray HHH
2010 Fender Blacktop
1987 Fender Avalon Acoustic
2012 Marshall DSL 15 watt head

Ah, right. It's the little alignment pin in the bottom of the casing.

Easy as pie, then. Old tuners off, new ones on, string 'er up and away you go! No probs.

Go to it!

Cheers - C