Yeah pretty funny. Since they were inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame all of sudden people are coming out of the woodwork as fans and crediting them as an influence.

OK, He can be the nice one. ILL be the mean one.

Cobain needed psychological help? Its a shame he couldnt afford to see a professional. OH WAIT Yeah, he couldve...
He apparently lived with no respect for anything. Not human life. Not that of others. Not his own.

That's what is wrong with mental illness, you never think you have a problem. Compound that with one terrible herion addiction and you have the makings for self-destruction.

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So then... heroin addiction WITHOUT mental illness is OK?

I thought that it was only in the US that we always find EXCUSES for the myriad methods we find to prove we should NOT be at the top of the food chain. But here in Japan theyre pretty good at it too.

Personal responsibility. It worked out OK for previous generations... I think youth needs to give it a try. Its good for you and those around you. Instead of excuses for harmful behavior... just stop the behavior.

Bill and Ted had it right: "Be excellent to each other"

It's so easy for a non addict or a person without demons to say just stop doing what your doing or just seek help. It doesnt work that way. Some people can not be helped. The list of extemely talented artists, actors, writers that have crashed and burned etc goes on and on. The fact that you have some kind of talent, fame etc doesnt mean you are better than the ghetto adict that doesnt have much to live for. The myth that drugs is a ghetto problem has long been dispelled. Unfortunately death by drug addtiction has become a legacy not just a side note for some very talented people. I always wonder what the hell Hendrix could have done if he was still alive.

No excuses for what he did to himself. Just poor choices. No addiction is ok, I do not care what it is (sex, drugs, alcohol, food, whatever). If you do have mental illnesses, seek help. But you need to have someone around you who is able to identify the problem and you have to be open to the suggestions to change. Curt Cobain was not in a situation where he could help himself. He had no support from his friends and wife. Even if he did, he might not have listened anyways. He was on a roller coaster that lead to his self destruction. And every generation has their share of people that ended up killing themselves through poor choices. And I agree...We need to make the right choices in life so we can grow.

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You cant save the world. Just ask Jesus. He'll tel ya. "I tried to save the world and they nailed me to a cross for it."

I totally agree. How we live is very important and the choices one makes will reflect his or her lifestyle. Taking responsibility for oneself and being patient in making the right choices are essential for living. I think people today have become obsessed with instant gratification. If you look at teen pregnancies, divorce rates, and other issues, you'll notice that it's all based on impatience. A person wants to have sex, a person wants to get married with having little knowledge of his or her significant other, a person wants to get an abortion because she doesn't want to deal with having a child. In the words of Mick Jagger, "You can't always get what you want." I think we got to stop being a microwave society, and start being accountable for our own actions.

Not as dumb as you might thing. He's been dubbed the "Godfather of Grunge". Tons of Grunge bands cite Neil Young as a major influence including Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Sonic Youth. Dig back a little and you'll see. Young even jammed Pearl Jam. Young is not just an acoustic player.
http://www.thrasherswheat.org/gog.htm

Maybe you just made the dumbest post ever.
Do your homework before shooting off your mouth.

Actually this statement is true. Neil Young is not a grunge artist, but he is a rock artist that influenced a lot of grunge bands. That's why he is known as the godfather of grunge. I love Neil Young. He makes some of the finest pieces of music, Cortez the Killer, Southern Man, Mr. Soul, Cinammon Girl, Cowgirl in the Sand, Sugar Mountain, etc.

My homework??? Oh, please. Dude, I lived in Seattle in the early '90s. I lived through the history of grunge. But let's discuss Neil Young...

It was Pearl Jam that put Neil Young in his ivory grunge tower. They even toured with him at times. In San Francisco they had a gig together at the polo grounds that almost ended up in a riot when Pearl Jam left after two songs (Eddie was sick) and Neil Young came out to play (again) instead of Pearl Jam. The audience was so "excited" to see Neil Young again, they almost burned down Golden Gate park. But, this all old news...

What we are talking about is "a contribution to grunge". Just because Eddie Vedder has this love affair with Neil as an influence does not mean Neil contributed anything to grunge. Neil Young never even played grunge. Neil only "influenced" some of the grunge artists (mainly Vedder).

And if you think Neil's influence on Eddie Vedder is more of a contribution to grunge than Kurt Cobain, then you -- with all due respect -- are also a rock. It was an incredibly dumb statement that shows complete ignorance of grunge.

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Hey, I'm not hear to get in an argument and don't call me dude.
The facts are the facts and they can't be disputed by You or anybody else.
Neil Young is still around. Vedder, Cobain or you couldn't carry Young's jockstrap.

I never said Young played grunge, he influenced it and that's a fact. If you influence someone, you either directly or indirectly influence it. I also didn't invent the term Godfather of grunge either someone else did.

"A southern man don't need him around anyhow"

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1) It was you who accused me of "shooting my mouth off" and "not doing my homework". So do not get all pissy at me.
2) This topic is so stupid. I feel like I am defending that 1+1=2. The question in point was that "Neil Young had more of an impact on grunge than Kurt Cobain". How enthralled you are with Neil Young is irrelevent. As far as grunge in concerned, Neil Young's impact was small, and Kurt's was garguatuan. Period. Any argument to the contrary is just fodder from Neil Young love hounds who likely dislike grunge.
3) So now you can go back to listening to "Harvest". I'll take "Incesticide" any day of the week.

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