This is a old argument: since you're nobody, you're not entitled to criticize any famous, or supposely famous people.

For the record, Paris Hilton is more famous than me, therefore I shouldn't be authorized to say that she sucks as singer and actress because I'm not famous.

Try again.

I agree, I think even his simple way of playing guitar was special, different, and you can tell when you listen to Nirvana's songs.... there's nothing that even sounds like it... that is really something to think about.... and by the way .... why do you guys hate Kurt so much ?? after all he played fenders and this is the fender forum lol

I actually like Nirvana as a band. I am just not infatuated with the band. If I had $100,000 to just blow on stuff, I could think of better stuff to spend it on. I agree with most of the posts, I would invest in some really cool guitars and equipment. $100,000 on a broken guitar just does not make sense to me.

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...maybe because he killed rock music?1992 was the end of the creative wave because of grunge, sort of punk in the late '70s but in the 80s rock recovered, while since the early 90s rock is de facto dead.

He was a guy without talent, that made very bad music and became a myth just because he shot his head because...he was successfull!

I accept the fact that a artist may committ suicide because he's not understood in life, like Van Gogh, but in this case, we deal with the King of Losers.

cuthbert, your post is ridiculous. If I were to lower myself to argue your points I'd be no better that a monkey flinging his own poop at you. I did get a good laugh out of the rock recovered in the 80's comment. Spandex, big hair and make up. Well I guess if you like bad music and cocaine the 80's ruled. lol

I like 90's music more than 80's. Granted there were both good things and bad things from both. However, I found 90's alternative music much more introspective than that of the 80's. I mean the truth is you don't need to be the most amazing guitar player to make good music. You can go on youtube and see thousands of great guitar players, yet how come they don't reach success. The only thing I can think of is the music. Sometimes the simplest songs are the best one's. Look at Bob Dylan, some of his stuff are just a few simple chords, it's not fancy guitar work, but it's music none the less. So I'm not going to say that Nirvana's music sucks because it doesn't. It was just simple. And it didn't prove that you didn't have to play well to be successful. It proved that you didn't have to be so complex all the time, it proved you didn't have to make technically challenging solos, and it proved that music can be good no matter how easy it may be. As for Kurt Cobain is concerned I will not judge. You respect an artist for his or her music, not for his or her lifestyle or morals. Honestly, I'm glad that 90's alternative music took over because in my opinion 80's music was starting to become a lot more pop oriented, like "She's My Cherry Pie." If you don't like the artist or the band than that's fine, but respect the dead. How can you say someone is so and so without actually knowing the person. Sorry for ramblin' but it is just kind of sad to see people judging others they don't even know.

Now as far as the $100,000 I would spend it on something else. Amps, guitars, pedals, the works.

I didn't invent the term "ressurection of the 80s", a certain Wolf Marshall did it. He's a guy who teaches how to play guitar, one thing that you surely don't know how if you like Cobain.

For the record, guitarist like Slash, Satriani, Vai, Malmsteen, Lynch etc... never went out of fashion, and they didn't shoot their head because they were hopeless junkies like your hero.

Mmm...explain the concept of "pop oriented" to the heavy metal bands of the 80s of the bay area like Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Slayer etc...

Master of puppets=pop?

Then, what we should say about Reload?

I like Satriani and Slash, don't really care much for the others. Look, we all like different types of music. We think the 90's killed music, or the 80's killed music or whatever. Some people think the music died when Buddy Holly passed away. Music is alive as long as the human race exists. And I don't know you cuthbert, but just because someone likes Nirvana doesn't mean they don't know how to play guitar or know how to teach it. If you like 80's music then great. I hope though that's not the only stuff you listen to. Try to open your mind and look at all types of music. You might find something else you might like.

Again, there are good things and bad things in each deacade. I like Metallica and Megadeth. But I don't care too much for Poison or Motley Crue. What's hard about metal music is that in order for it to be liked by a large audience it has to be melodic, heavy, and appealing for both purist metal heads and for the occasional listener. When Metallica came out with their Black Album I think a lot of their purist metal head fans were dissappointed. I personally like ...And Justice For All and Master of Puppets, but again the trick is to have all those three qualities above. I think they did it with those two albums, but apparently it was the Black Album that got them there.

Look, I'm not going to say Grunge is better than Metal or Metal is better than Grunge. I think both are great for diferent reasons and I can see why one might like one over the other. It's all subjective and we're all entitled to our opinion.

Oh well, for the record, I was trained as classical musician, and I play sax and violin besides guitar.

I expecially like baroque music of the '700s, that's the reason why I appreciate musicians that were able to merge rock and classic like Rhoads, Malmsteen and Blackmore.

I'm also a huge fan of jazz sax players of the 40s and 50s, in particular Dexter Gordon, but also Coltrane, Rollins, Parker and Adderly, I like to play some of their pieces, like Giant steps, on the guitar. It helped my vision of the music a lot and opened me to different ideas, therefore if you're looking for a narrow minded person, I'm not your man.

And you what I learned by listening to Vivaldi, Mozart, Gordon, Lynch, May and Page? To recognize what is good music and what it garbage. Nirvana were garbage, of the worst kind.

Is there any music from the 90's you like? I mean I'm not infatuated with Nirvana but I do like alternative music. Also a fan of Jazz music. Miles Davis and the like.

Well said Blaqdog. 2 of the most influential bands quoted by new bands that formed in the last 20 years were the Ramones and Nirvana. Both bands but especially the Ramones were of limited technical skills. Thats what inspired so many bands to start. The idea of hey I dont have to be Jimi Hendrix or Eddie VanHalen to make music. Even I guy like John Frusciante who has been quoted as being influenced by The Ramones and Kurt Cobain is of limited technical skills. It's about the music you make not how technically brilliant you are. Also to bandy about the fact that Kurt was a heroin addict is pretty silly since many famous musicians have been addicted to heroin, drugs or alcohol and died becuase of it. Not to mention the ones who have survived.

Hendrix, Elvis, John Entwistle, Brian Jones, Janis Joplin, Keith Moon, Jim Morrison, Bon Scott, Hillel Slovak. I could easily list a hundred more of the top of my head without thinking to hard about it.

You're definitely entitled to your opinion and those musicians you listed, I love also too as well. I did play the violin before and studied classical growing up before I hit my teenage years and moved onto guitar.

In my opinion, Nirvana brought a different kind of rock music down. Technically, he is not the greatest and well practically, anyone can play a Nirvana song in their sleep. But, he knows how to piece a song together and make catchy melodies. Some songs are Beatlesque in a way. He gave Fender a bunch of business. (Heard he turned down Gibson, because he didn't like any of their guitars even though they offered him money and an endorsement.) Although the lyrics don't make sense, its bits and pieces of poetry of his own that he took that make those songs. Sometimes lyrics don't make sense, but I guess that's rock n' roll. I don't think its necessary to call someone else a clown or a loser, because they dislike their music.

Whoever said Neil Young is Grunge, please..just stop.

I think he meant hair metal bands like Poison, Warrant, Cinderella...etc..