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Post subject: Small imperfections in mia deluxe strat
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:00 pm
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Hi i got my new american deluxe strat a couple of months ago and i've noticed a few flaws in the finish, it's hard to describe but its kinda like the body has small lines indented no more than 1 cm llong and then the paint finish was obviously placed on top of thise so whats left are small channels in the finish, ive noticed this like 3 times accross the guitar. It's obviously nothing major and barely noticeable but i was just thinking surely this shouldn't happen on deluxe strats?

Any opinions? If you don't understand my description just ask, it's hard to describe. Thanks a lot


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If one looks for imperfections, one will find them.

There will always be grains in even premium grade woods which may and do cave in over time due to dried up/out, collapsed pore(s). Obviously, the closer to the surface, the more noticeable such things will be. Remember, at one time the body (wood) was a living, breathing thing. So, even with state of the art technology and a mastery of wood finishing, stuff like this cannot be 100% foreseen nor prevented.

Although the integrity of the piece is still there, if it irks you to the point that it is interfering with your thorough enjoyment of your guitar, I'm sure you could exchange it for what would probably be deemed as factory blemish (imperfection).

On a semi-related matter: Can you imagine the field day many posters here would have with if this was a MIM piece?

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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:00 pm
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Martian wrote:
So, even with state of the art technology and a mastery of wood finishing, stuff like this cannot be 100% foreseen nor prevented.


It was prevented in the '70s with the Thick Skin finish which was a very thick undercoating. People seem to think those thick finishes are all clear coat, but it's actually the opposite: the undercoating.

Today's thinner finishes can have sink into the grain. But most people like that!

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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:18 am
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I had a strat that had a besutiful finish and up close you could see no flaws. I always keep mine clean (no finger prints and such) but if I sat across the room and looked at it at the right angle, you could tell where the the multipiece wood body was joined together. Again, you had to be at the right angle across the room to see this. Didn't really bother me and no one else would ever realize it. Sometimes we pick out things no one else would ever see.


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Martian and Orville got it right. If its a burst finish with an Ash body and nitro finish you can get this "flaw" as moisture evaporates from the wood. This is one reason Leo went to Alder in his production guitars. It won't hurt the playability of the instrument, certainly gives it character, and may make it more valuable as a collectible in the future.

Ceri has a good thread on his own "raw wood" that he has been curing for a while to get the moisure content down before he starts his next project guitar... Check it out very educational and good pictures.

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You're going to be able to find issues with most guitars in one way or another. If it doesn't affect the playability I wouldn't sweat it.

I think the whole "Deluxe" thing is that they are fancier than the Standards, not that more care is taken in their construction.

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The wood was not seasoned properly and still has moisture in it, also it seems they have cut corners on the finish.


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Thanks for all the replies, once again i'm not bothered i just was curious as to what the issue was and how common it is, thanks.


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i bought my first strat about a month ago, i was given a loner until mine was shipped. when i picked it up the other day, i right away noticed there were two "dings" in the finish that looked like someone walked right into a wall with it, so i complained and they are sending me another one, and it was right out of the box no one at gc opened it so i know it was done at the factory, i just dont know how that was passed but it was, im nervous that because the holiday season they are pushing these out without really inspecting them


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Mine had the same thing, just the sinking in of the finish. I like it alot better than the finish on my MIM, it's so thick I think it could deflect a rifle round.


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Post subject: Re: Small imperfections in mia deluxe strat
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:20 am
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adrianroux wrote:
Hi i got my new american deluxe strat a couple of months ago and i've noticed a few flaws in the finish, it's hard to describe but its kinda like the body has small lines indented no more than 1 cm llong and then the paint finish was obviously placed on top of thise so whats left are small channels in the finish, ive noticed this like 3 times accross the guitar. It's obviously nothing major and barely noticeable but i was just thinking surely this shouldn't happen on deluxe strats?

Any opinions? If you don't understand my description just ask, it's hard to describe. Thanks a lot
Whoa, reviving a zombie thread of over 7 years!!!
I understand exactly what you're taking about. I have an AVRI 70s Strat in Olympic White manufactured in 2008 and depending on the reflection of light, you can see some faint fine vertical lines indented under and around the bridge area running down towards the bottom, front and back. They are there but hardly noticeable unless holding up against certain angle of light. Talk about American quality-control.

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Post subject: Re: Small imperfections in mia deluxe strat
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:50 am
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As many have pointed out, this is quite normal for thin finishes. The paint has sunk into the wood a but. I wouldn't worry about. I've noticed this on my Clapton Strat and my '75 Strat.


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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:48 am
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paris wrote:
As many have pointed out, this is quite normal for thin finishes. The paint has sunk into the wood a but. I wouldn't worry about. I've noticed this on my Clapton Strat and my '75 Strat.
Could you post a pic?

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Post subject: Re: Small imperfections in mia deluxe strat
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:23 am
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I have 3 MIA Strats, and I can find small finish faults in all of them. I attribute it to more hand finishing being done at the factory and also maybe some glue shrinkage? I purchased a Modern Player Thinline last year and it is absolutely perfect. It puts the MIA's to shame. I attribute that to the huge automated factory in Indonesia being able to make each product identical. But, when looking and handling both products the MIA's just seem to be a much better quality instrument, can't say why, they just do. Reminds me of a post on the Gibson forum and guy saying if you want a Gibson with a perfect finish, buy a Epiphone.


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