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Post subject: What is the fat strat good at playing ?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:00 pm
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ok there were the normal strats then they invented the fat strats.. is it to make the strat sound more heavier? ... to play metal kinda music n stuff?

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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:15 pm
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sajinath wrote:
ok there were the normal strats then they invented the fat strats.. is it to make the strat sound more heavier? ... to play metal kinda music n stuff?

Please help me :)


The fat strat was developed to take care of the fact that the original single coil bridge pickup was increasingly seen as weak. And it is. A long time ago, when surf music was big, people liked that jangly chimey clear bridge pickup sound. But as music got darker and heavier, more people became dissatisfied with the bridge pickup. It was used less and less by artists who wanted a distorted sound. A lot of these people wound up playing guitars with humbuckers. A humbucker has that thick sound that makes such a good foundation for distorted tones. Fender's answer was to replace the bridge pickup with a humbucker. It's all an attempt to get a stronger bridge pickup into play.


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What is the fat strat good at playing? Practical jokes and golf.


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:08 pm
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thanks a lot soggy crow. So can it can play metal right ? And how come its more cheaper than the normal strats?


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:29 pm
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sajinath wrote:
So can it can play metal right ?


Not with the stock pickups. You might be able to get an 80's hair metal sound. If you looking for something heavier, then a pick change will be needed.


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:43 pm
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Cheaper :?: Mine came in at ~1300$,, with the crazy prices in stores now it is listing at around 1750$ in the shops.

It has a darker tone than the normal single coil's, but nothing like the p90's growl on a Gibson.
Good for the same type of music any Strat is good for, :)

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thanks a lot soggy crow. So can it can play metal right ? And how come its more cheaper than the normal strats?

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Post subject: Re: What is the fat strat good at playing ?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:38 pm
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... But as music got darker and heavier, more people became dissatisfied with the bridge pickup ...

Enter Eddie Van Halen ... who is pretty much considered the pioneer who developed this concept (or at the very least, the one who made it incredibly popular).

Below is Eddie's first rev of his Frankenstein guitar. Note the humbucker in the bridge position and also the Fender tremelo (this was before Floyds and Kahler). Also, there were no humbucker-fitted pickguards. So Eddie created his own for this guitar, shaping it out of industrial plastic and cutting it with garden sheers.
(Maybe some Van Halen-ologists here have more info?)

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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:46 pm
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I don't see whats wrong with using the stock pickups in a S/S/S Strat, to be honest. I use my MiM Strat for metal all the time (and sometimes I REALLY like to use the bridge, gets a good 80's thrash sound). As far as eliminating the quack goes, I just roll back the tone knob to zero and it really hits the lower bassier sounds. :)


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... I use my MiM Strat for metal all the time (and sometimes I REALLY like to use the bridge, gets a good 80's thrash sound) ...

I replaced my Gibson SG stock pups with Gibson 496R/500T pups. Man, that SG provides that healthy crunch when they are overdriven, even when just a little. Talk about power chords... Meanwhile, my MIM Std has Tex Mex pups which give much more of a bluesy metal tone, much more akin to a heavily overdriven Robin Trower tone - which I love to death (the Alnico Vs in the TM are way hotter and much more responsive to gain than the original ceramics). But let's be clear -- this is why I love the Strat so much, and the sustain is off the charts. That all being said, when I want hardcore straight-ahead crunch, I gotta grab the SG with those mean humbuckers.

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Humbuckers rock !!!!!!! :)


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I have a MIM 72 Tele Deluxe with the dual humbuckers and it's great for playing heavy distortion. I may upgrade the pots at some point to 500k and maybe the pups someday but for now I'm pretty happy with it. It's quite a bit different than my Strats. Although with my Muff Metal pedal the Strats can sound pretty mean. My Blues Juinior loves my 72 Deluxe. Damn those pups sound good through a tube amp.


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FYI there is a double fat strat available also. Two humbuckers instead of just one at the bridge. This may be good for you if you want to play metal. There's USA built one on ebay for 550.00. Not a bad price.


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I have a SSS HWY 1 Stratocaster. I can get a lot of different sounds out of it. Metal, Thrash, Rock, Blues, Surf, Punk, Country, but Metal is my forte. It is my main guitar. I love this guitar, by far superior to any other I have owned in the past.

The point is that Humbuckers are made for handling distortion better than single coils are. If you are playing metal only, you may want the "Fat" Strat or "Double Fat" Strat. While you are at it, get the Floyd Rose Tremelo on it as well for those dive-bombs. $500 to $600 dollars is a good price for the Fender with these options. If your playing style is a little more diversified, SSS is the way to go. If you look below I also have an ESP LTD HH configuration guitar. I reserve that guitar for when I want to play that dark, scary metal.

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