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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:24 pm
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hi. whats hapnin face melters?...
this is my first post but i read posts all the time, this is a cool forum.

anyway, i have a question. i just got my new fender 70's mex ri strat, it's rad as but there is heaps of buzz when ur not playing anything. is something wrong or is it because they are vintage pickups or are not 'noiseless'?

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:48 pm
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Sounds like you're talking about good old 60 cycle hum. It's the free bonus you get with single coil pickups. Try to stay away from televisions, computer monitors, flourescent lights, etc.

If you think you may have more hum than you should, maybe you'd want to compare it to another similar strat.


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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:00 pm
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i can't realy compare, i live in the middle of nowhere. i have a highway one strat which doesnt have the hum. does that mean it isn't the single coil pickups?
if it is just the pickups is there anything you can do to fix it? shielding or grounding or hum vanelling curcit or something?

i could always use a noise gate/surpresser but id rather not if i don't have to

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excess wrote:
i can't realy compare, i live in the middle of nowhere. i have a highway one strat which doesnt have the hum. does that mean it isn't the single coil pickups?
if it is just the pickups is there anything you can do to fix it? shielding or grounding or hum vanelling curcit or something?

i could always use a noise gate/surpresser but id rather not if i don't have to


You could have noiseless pickups like Vintage Noiseless, Hot Noiseless, SCNs...

People say with noiseless pickups, the tone goes away. I'm not really sure about that since I haven't tried them out yet.


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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:34 pm
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excess wrote:
i can't realy compare, i live in the middle of nowhere. i have a highway one strat which doesnt have the hum. does that mean it isn't the single coil pickups?
if it is just the pickups is there anything you can do to fix it? shielding or grounding or hum vanelling curcit or something?

i could always use a noise gate/surpresser but id rather not if i don't have to


Actually, your Highway One is partially humbucking. It depends on which pickup(s) and pickup combinations you select. Apparently, your selections favor humbucking modes if you don't have this problem through your Marshall.

Regarding the 70's RI, yes, this hum is normal as you are getting 60 cycle hum and your 70's RI is of totally non-humbucking configuration.

Shielding the guitar MAY quiet the hum down a bit but do not expect dramatic resilts as the biggest source for drawing in hum is your pickups themselves and these as a rule, do not get shielded. And even if you did decided to shield the pickups, their magnetic field would be altered where the frequency response of the pickups would shrink and you'd get a slight volume drop. As a matter of fact, simply shielding your guitar alone MAY shrink frequency response and cause a slight volume drop.

Back in the day, when I used to use Marshall Super Lead stacks (I'm really showing my age now), all my Strats hummed like hell through them. It never really bothered me because once I started playing, the hum was pretty much inconsequential once the rest of the band kicked in.

If you can't live with the hum, as others have suggested and will suggest, go with some kind of stacked design pickups. These are humbuckers which fit into single coil slots. If you've read any of the other posts on this or any other forum regarding suggestions for same, you'll be more confused than when you started as to which would or would not be good for you unless you have a really SPECIFIC notion in mind of what you'd like your new pickup set to sound like. Even with this, you'll still get many suggestions one way or the other.

As to some kind of noise gate, I wouldn't.

Oh yea, and welcome to the group!

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:48 pm
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so humbuckers dont get it? and it's just a single coil thing?
do noiseless singles get it?

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acturly you right. my highway one does have it on the singles.

so theres no way of getting rid of it?

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Cheap pickups in general have that hum... even cheap humbuckers have it... so I would ssuggest you if you totally hate that hum then you might wanna buy hum free pickups .. there are many brands I use emgs and theyre totally hum free
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:10 am
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acturly you right. my highway one does have it on the singles.

so theres no way of getting rid of it?


Presuming you mean with the stock pickups, again, there's a few ways of getting rid of it but for what you'd have to go through to do genuinely accomplish it, realistically, would surely not be worth it.

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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:28 am
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Martian wrote:
As to some kind of noise gate, I wouldn't.


Agree with that. Soon as you turn a noise supressor up enough to hear it actually doing anything the consequences on tone and playing feel become very unpleasant. Find a different route.

BTW, just in case you are new to this issue, you will find that it is much worse with high gain amp settings. Turning your gain down some in proportion to volume will help a good deal (and win you a nicer tone in my prejudiced view!).

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