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Post subject: Scalloped neck
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:14 pm
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Looking to try a maple scalloped neck from Fender. Any suggestions on where I can try one before I buy one. No local Fender Dealers in my area.


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Post subject: Re: Scalloped neck
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:23 pm
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bradymoore wrote:
Looking to try a maple scalloped neck from Fender. Any suggestions on where I can try one before I buy one. No local Fender Dealers in my area.


Hi Brady: you are going to find a very well made scalloped maple neck on the Yngwie Malmsteen signature Strat. Take a look at this page:

http://www.fender.com/products//search. ... 0107112841

Unfortunately, that is not an instrument you find in every guitar shop - I can't remember the last time I saw one. You will have to see if a shop will order one in for you to have a look at.

BTW: we had a lot of discussion of that guitar on the Strat Forum a couple of months ago. If you feel like it, search back through the lists looking for threads with Yngwie's name in. There were at least two detailed threads - as well as others discussing Mr Malmsteen himself...

Good luck - C


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:29 pm
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With no local dealer, I would suggest looking online for a store like musicians friend that offers a money back guarantee. Try it out at home for a few days and send it back if you don't like it. I have played a scalloped neck way in the past and it was weird. However, I think it might be cool if you give it time to get used to it. I don't think you will be able to judge it by a single play or two...

My oberservation was:

1. Strange overall feel of just the string on the finger
2. if you push the string to hard, you are out of tune/pitch
3. You have to play with finesse, see #2
4. May help your playing in the long run if you sweep arpeggios and move them around a lot...kinda like Malmsteen does

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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:14 pm
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You could always go custom shop if you want a scalloped fretboard, it might save you a bit more money than getting the Malmsteen Strat. Although, from what I hear out of the custom shop, it may or may not.

Or you could always order in a scalloped Warmoth neck. :)


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:05 pm
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firstrat wrote:
With no local dealer, I would suggest looking online for a store like musicians friend that offers a money back guarantee. Try it out at home for a few days and send it back if you don't like it. I have played a scalloped neck way in the past and it was weird. However, I think it might be cool if you give it time to get used to it. I don't think you will be able to judge it by a single play or two...

My oberservation was:

1. Strange overall feel of just the string on the finger
2. if you push the string to hard, you are out of tune/pitch
3. You have to play with finesse, see #2
4. May help your playing in the long run if you sweep arpeggios and move them around a lot...kinda like Malmsteen does


I regularly play scalloped neck, and I would like to answer:

1)Strange just for first times, then you get used. You get more control on the vibrato and bending, that the real deal.
2)No, unless, you want to to do that, normally this doesn't happen, you have to press so hard that your hand starts to bleed to get out of tune.
3)Scalloped is finesse.
4)It doesn't help with arpeggios or speed, it's all a matter of control on the strings.

I'll post some of my scallops later...


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Post subject: Re: Scalloped neck
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:16 pm
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bradymoore wrote:
Looking to try a maple scalloped neck from Fender. Any suggestions on where I can try one before I buy one. No local Fender Dealers in my area.


It's better to find a experienced luthier to do the job. Personally, I don't like the shape of the malmsteen scalloped, also, if you want 22 frets neck the signature is not for you.

Sometimes on ebay you can find nicely scalloped necks, the japanese Blackmore had a wonderful scalloped.

Personally, I use a different scalloped, that is not symmetric, as you can see from the pictures, my luthier calls it "wave scalloped" because it recall to him the waves of the sea on the fretboard.


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Thanks for the replys keep em' coming!!


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:19 pm
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I regularly play scalloped neck, and I would like to answer:

1)Strange just for first times, then you get used. You get more control on the vibrato and bending, that the real deal.
2)No, unless, you want to to do that, normally this doesn't happen, you have to press so hard that your hand starts to bleed to get out of tune.
3)Scalloped is finesse.
4)It doesn't help with arpeggios or speed, it's all a matter of control on the strings.

I'll post some of my scallops later...[/quote]

Cool. I was just going off recollection from the mid to late 80's. maybe I was actually bending the string more than I realized. But I remember having to go easy or risk sounding off. It was brief. So that's why i recomended the guy try it for some time to give it a chance. First impressions aren't always correct. I would like to give it another go someday myself

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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:28 pm
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firstrat wrote:
Cool. I was just going off recollection from the mid to late 80's. maybe I was actually bending the string more than I realized. But I remember having to go easy or risk sounding off. It was brief. So that's why i recomended the guy try it for some time to give it a chance. First impressions aren't always correct. I would like to give it another go someday myself


That's a real problem: if you aren't used since you don't hasve the friction of the fretboard you unwillingly "micro-bend" the string, so the movement is horizontal. This may happen the first times, expecially when you're playing chords, once you're used you know how to gauge your strength and apply a perfectly normal pressure on the strings, this allows you to get a better control, therefore better bending, vibrato and speed.

I thought you meant that if you pressed the strings HARD you can be out of tune, a lot of people think this way, but you need to apply a STRONG pressure, vertically.

Personally I love scalloped and I would like to scallop my Flying V as well, but everybody says not to do it because it depreciate the value of a Gibson... :(


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:47 pm
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I say do what you want to it if you are going to keep it. I think it would limit the market for it if you plan to sell one day, but if you find the right buyer... who knows? you may get extra

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Track down Forum user "Shreddin" I think he's got a scalloped neck or two on his guitars.

Other than that . . . I got no ideas

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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:27 am
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firstrat wrote:
I say do what you want to it if you are going to keep it. I think it would limit the market for it if you plan to sell one day, but if you find the right buyer... who knows? you may get extra


Problem is...it's a guitar of the week 40, this means that there are 400 made in total, therefore SUPPOSELY it can have a future as investment...if it was a normal '67 I wouldn't esitate much.

BTW, Malmy own a old white V, with scalloped neck,,the pickguard modified to house three single coils and fender vintage trem...nice instrument, a sort of StratoV.


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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:45 am
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Or you can try eBay..............................like this one which is currently being bid and going at $255 ->CLICK ME!!

Or if you have the cash in hand and dont mind blowing it here's 2 more links where you can buy:
-NECK 1
-NECK 2


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Thanks Belphedeus for the tip.


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