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Do you think music of the post 2000 era (today) is better than the music before the year 2000?
yes 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
no 83%  83%  [ 44 ]
about the same 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:13 pm
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I don't mean to be insulting, I just feel how I feel.
Technique is a funny thing too. A lot of the newer guys that I saw at the Warp Tour a few years ago play with tons of distortion in drop d tuning and two fingers.

Now for the funny part. Django Reinhardt played with just two fingers too.
Get my drift. Turn off the distortion and what do the newer guys have? Django had no distortion. Not that there's anything wrong with distortion. Not all the newer players play that way by all means. Some are really talented, but the record company's are trying to sell a look which in some ways is more valuable than the music.

I've been listening to Blues since I was 10 years old listening to Tampa Red, Robert Johnson, Son House, Bukka White as well as Johnny Winter, Gatemouth Brown, and David Honeyboy Edwards. I'm no stranger to raw emotional music. I too love all kinds of music, I just have a hard time with a lot of the new stuff, more out of disappointment of only a few picking up the ball and running with it.


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I was a very proud metal guy in the 80's. But by the time grunge killed it, it needed to die anyway. It mutated into "She's My Cherry Pie" and crap like that, and was being beat into the ground and I was so tired of that sound. Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, STP - all great bands, and very different from the previous era. In fact, I still love a lot of their stuff, but don't listen to the hair metal 80's stuff, unless I've had a few beers or something.

I do miss the pride that guitar players had, the songwriting, and the non-sampling/ripping-off of other people. It's not easy to be unique AND sound good to a good chunk of the listeners. It can be done, but that's where the talent, the creativity, and the rare originality comes into play.

Hopefully, a new "sound" will come out soon. It's up to US to make that happen.


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Between 1966 - 1975! Then happened everything :wink:

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Blaqdog wrote:
This is how I see it, every decade has it's good points and bad points, today however, there is more commercialization of untalented artists.


This pretty much sums it up for me.


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All these opinions are meaningless without the age of the poster. At least I can gauge where you're coming from if I know your age. I'm 43 and I feel that music has been pretty much dead since the mid 90's. Nothing new, nothing refreshing. I thought the 80's were hot and cold. Vanhalen's 84 and Motley Crue were some high points but mostly the hair and make up bands were rubbish. Punk was on the down turn, grunge the only good thing in the last 20 years was in it's infancy. Of course the old standbys will always be there but as far as new stuff, the airwaves have been dead for a long time. I remember when I first heard Korn and Pantera and thought WOW something new and fresh. Havent felt that way in a long time. Music has become more and more a corporate business and that kills inovation. Where will the new Nirvana come from. Probably never, that was a one shot deal.


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Yeah, the good ol' '60s, '70s and early '80s were golden. Then came the Gangsta Rap crap and it all went downhill from there. Still, there are some worthy bands out there putting down some good tunes today. I have just discovered a Hi Def channel on Cox cable called "Paladia" which has a diverse mixture of music. It is mostly concert footage from different venues. They have shown everything from footage of the 1968 Monterey Pop Festival to the 2007 Isle of Wight festival. Watching that channel has introduced me to a bunch of new stuff that is actually kinda good; I particularly liked the Isle of Wight 2007 that introduced me to the likes of Wolfmother and some other bands I had never heard of. Interesting how many of those bands members were playing Telecasters!!! BTW - I'm 54


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The age of the poster has nothing to do with it, musical taste does. I'm older, 53 played professionally for many years and it doesn't really matter who plays the music or the genre. Much of the newer stuff is just rehashed old stuff. Nothing new or creative. Even as a kid I wasn't all that much into Zeppelin because I was and am heavily into blues and Page was doing Robert Johnson stuff only a lot louder. I like everything from Rock to Metal, Jazz, Bluegrass, some older Country, Fusion, Classical etc. But a lot of the new guys don't write songs with a good hook that gets stuck in my head.
Just for the record, I do like Zep a lot now.


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I ended up writing an argumentative essay on this subject. About how the music industry needs to be reformed so that both the interests of the industry/media and the artist can be met. This includes internet distribution, the ratification of the telecommunications act of 1996, the reformation of MTV, and the treatment of artists...it ended up being 8 pages long. :lol:


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There's some pretty interesting music in some jazz circles today. Modern players are working with traditional players to merge what I'd call a rock sensibility with classic styling. For instance, some of Esperanza Spaulding's collaberations are a great combination of someone who grew up now using traditional styles.

Another example from recent years is MyCoy Tiner's collaboration with Stanley Clarke. This is a good case of the "feel" of Clarke's funk and fusion background but with the lower key dynamic of classic jazz.

Overall, I like this merging of old and new more than the fusion era. To me, it seemed fusion was sometimes little more than heavy distortion and rock star speed. Add in some synths and a real horn or sax, let it be know that the guitar player and bassist could read music and there you have it. This is not to put down the talent of many of the great fusion artists and in fact quite a few of them are now involved in the return to more classic styling.


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I'm only forty but I feel like I sound like my parents when I say that music today, with the exception of a few bands, just ain't got the soul that it did back when.
Here's what I think is the problem. When I read about almost any current band, they list as their influences people from the nineties or early turn of this century.
Now, the bands from the 60s and 70s-those folks usually listed the old blues guys as their influences. Steven Tyler from Aerosmith put it best when he said the music of today ain't got no soul because they don't list any bands or players with depth or real feeling as their influences. You can hear that some of these guys have no basis in the roots.

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I think today's music in general has become too much about "the look" rather than porducing good music. Yes there are exceptions to that rule, there always are. But the vast majority of stuff out there is rather mediocre.

I'm not talking about a lack of music with a political message, that sh-t bores me to tears. I feel that if you want to be a politician, you should go into politics. As a musician, your job is to entertain.

Look at the number of bands that come out, hit the scene, do an album and disappear. Even worse in my opinion are the image bands that change their sound every two weeks trying to keep up with what is currently cool.

How about the retreads whose only shot is to try being shocking. All the smoke and mirrors and disturbing imagery in the world can't hide the lack of musical depth or talent.

Maybe it's just become too easy to record your stuff and get it heard.
Maybe we have become too saturated with "stuff" to be able to tell what is good and what isn't.
Maybe we are just too used to disposable music. If it isn't new it's no good.

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