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Do you think music of the post 2000 era (today) is better than the music before the year 2000?
yes 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
no 83%  83%  [ 44 ]
about the same 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
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Post subject: Music Today
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:20 am
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I like the music before. I don't care for a lot of the music that's being played today except for a small few.


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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:14 pm
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Blaqdog wrote:
I like the music before. I don't care for a lot of the music that's being played today except for a small few.


There isn't much real innovation anymore. Most of what I hear these days is rehashed stuff from decades ago. People steer me at "indy" music and it's the same story. Old news.

Now there are some real guitar virtuosos out there. We have scads of players with monster chops. But they play a lot of boring music. Malmsteen, Vai, Satriani, Frusciante, etc. Superb chops - boring music. I wish I could do what they do, but if I could I would do something else with the skill.


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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:33 pm
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2000 Man I am getting old! I like the music that was out before 1980.

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Some newer stuff is good, but it lacks substance in general.

I hear a whole lot of stuff that sounds exactly the same. There are like 5 or so different band "sounds" in the mainstream now, and they're all mimic'ing that.

Like some turds that stole U2's "With or Without You" and put different lyrics, and pawn it as their own songs. I can't believe they can even do that, horrible. No pride whatsoever.

Except, you'll hear some whiny-ass kid whimpering about some chick leaving him, and he sounds all broken up and on the verge of crying in a corner or something. Loser.


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cvilleira wrote:
2000 Man I am getting old! I like the music that was out before 1980.

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where are the seventies when you need them??

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cvilleira wrote:
2000 Man I am getting old! I like the music that was out before 1980.


Well... yes!

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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:51 pm
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I'll agree completely with the people who say today's "expert musicians" are plain boring- because they are. SRV was good, and his music WASN'T boring, old AC/DC was much better than today's AC/DC (in my opinion), and so on...seems like those who are good at music focus at showing off than actually making good music. What a shame. :?


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I don't think anything 'new' in terms of rock music can be invented any longer. It's really difficult to make original music nowadays because it's bound to sound similar to something that's already been invented. Theory was already invented and there's barely anything left to experiment with, 'expert musicians' just continue playing what they're invented, and as a result it beomes boring for some. I wish I was born earlier, it would be nice to write something knowing there is a possibility it hasn't been played before.

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This is a perennial topic for debate.

Our personalities become solidified when we're about 17 years old; therefore, we tend to perceive everything we like at that age as "the best." As a teenager, I was listening to Queen, Jethro Tull, Led Zeppelin, ELO, Pink Floyd, Eric Clapton, The Tubes, David Bowie, and other acts of the late 1970s.

Many people on this forum would probably consider that to be pretty good stuff.

But my father, who grew up listening to classical and big-band music, considered it to be garbage. Similarly, it's all too easy for me to dismiss today's music as inferior to what I'm used to. But is it objectively so?

If you open your ears and your mind, I think you can find some good in every musical age.


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It has been my experience that music goes through phases. There has been a lot of good music made throughout the years and some crappy music as well. One just had to open their minds to music to realize music is universal.

I went almost 9 years from 1991-2000 thinking that all the music that was being put out was crap. I all but stopped listening to local rock stations. Then one day I was listening to someone a few years younger than me listening to the band System of the Down. Reminded me of some 80's Punk Rock with a Metal Edge. I started listening to local rock stations again.

I have to admit that the Zepplin/Sabbath days are over; however, we now have new bands to listen to. I do believe this is why we all play guitars, to put our own spin on the music we like to hear.

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Not to say I am old or anything, but back a long time ago when I was a carpenter helping to build the ark, we listened to really good stuff.

I liked the older stuff by the bands and singers from as far back as the 30s, but really liked the groups like Zep, Pink Floyd (although we all found out floyd was not really pink), Eric Clapton, BB King, Grand Funk Railroad (Couldn't find them on a Monopoly set), 10 years after, Bloodrock, ELO, Yes, Chuck Berry, The Allman Brothers, Derek and the Dominoes (But that was Clapton, of course) and many others from those eras.

In the eighties, things started down hill a bit, but there were those who were great like Journey, April Wine, REO, Molly Hatchet, 38 Special, Asia, etc.

I cannot stand the whiney gayish sounding vocalists that are predominant now, and the instrumental work is terrible on the new stuff, and I do NOT consider RAP as music (sorry).

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I don't buy too much music from new bands.

The stuff I hear on the radio doesn't make me want to rush out to buy any CDs.

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:43 am
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OK. I listened to it all and here's how I rate the decades:

1950's 9
1960's 10
1970's 6
1980's 7
1990's 5
2000's 3

There are some exceptions and caveats, of course. Jimi Hendrix died in 1970 but he really belongs to the 1960's. And actually the 1970's started strong but dissolved into a bunch of big hair bands. Rescued in the 1980's by New Wave. And it's been downhill ever since.


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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:15 am
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I was a teenager in the 80's, and loved that music back then. I can't stand most of it now, too played out and cheesy. I can appreciate the musicianship of the guitar players back then, they all took pride in their skills and showed them off in their songs.

Today, you rarely hear more than a basic melody line or something - nowhere near that level. But there isn't as much of a demand for such a guitar-focused song. Why? Because it's hard to put a lot of good guitar work into a song and have it not sound like hair metal or Vai or someone. Mars Volta is one of the exceptions, and I like a lot of their stuff just from the point of composition and musicianship.

I think there is a lot that can be done with music. People were saying nothing new can be done really, and then you heard Quiet Riot's "Metal Health" that changed the 80's hair metal scene. Or Nirvana's "Teen Spirit" that brought a completely new sound to the masses (although it was popular in Seattle, etc).

But yeah - it's hard to come up with something that's very new AND sounds good to a good section of people. There are a lot of people writing junk just the be different, and all it sounds like is crap - yet they'll consider it "art" and "pure" or some other key word that makes themselves feel better for writing crap.


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man, you guys putting frusciante in the lanes of those "virtuosos" are killing me... have you heard his solo $@!&? it's more about how the lyrics pose over the tone. sure, he lashes out with all six occasionally, but it's more about good songs. How about his soloing on TMV's Frances the Mute? or all of his guitars on TMV's Amputechture.

i would consider today's music to be like the 90's and the 80's mixed. everyone's rehashing the 80's like it was cool, but putting the dirt from the 90's in it. i always think of bloc party, or 311. i was born in the 80's but grew up on 50s, 60s, & 70s. as the 90's approached, i veered off into "alter-nation" and started grooving the nirvana, pearl jam, early 311, rhcp, at the drive-in, etc. now i see even those bands (not nirv obviously) going down really bizarre, even over-border cheezy roads.

my main highlights from the 2000's have been 311's Soundsystem/From Chaos, RHCP Californication, Frusciante's solo work, Mars Volta - Deloused/Frances, and ATDI Relationship of Command. The $@!& that's really restored my faith in where the sound is heading is blues revival stuff like White Stripes and Black Keys. To die for.

Anyways, nothing will beat late 60's and the early 70's, but we should still try :)

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