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Post subject: DiMarzio Heavy Blues 2
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:22 pm
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Does anybody have experience with Dimarzio Heavy blues 2. They sound great on the Dimarzio website, I wonder if they do in real life.


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That all depends on how well you play and what kind of amp you're using :D .

Seriously, I don't have personal experience with that paritculal model but DiMarzio pickups in general are pretty darned sweet sounding. I'd take the chance on getting them.

If you don't like it, you can always resell it on Ebay

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Thanks Mthorn00

I agree with you that agility in playing and the amp used will have a tremendous effect on overall sound and tone, but pickups usually have their character/color and limitations as well.

I liked the vintage seventies sound/character/color of these pickups when I heard them on the Dimarzio website ...I was Just wondering if thats their original character or whether its a result of other things (effects, sound engineering, etc)
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Post subject: Re: DiMarzio Heavy Blues 2
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:33 am
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Hisham Seif-Eldin wrote:
Does anybody have experience with Dimarzio Heavy blues 2. They sound great on the Dimarzio website, I wonder if they do in real life.


I have one! Unfortunately, it was very hard to procure and there was a misunderstanding with the shop, I wanted two and I got just one, therefore I'm waiting for another one.

I planned to have two HB2 in the neck and middle, with Solo Pro (alnico 2 as well) at the bridge, I replaced a YJM and a HS-3, the HS-2 is still at its place in the middle.

What to say?First, it's a high output pickup, approximately twice the old HS series, that had less signal than the stock pickups. This is good for me. Another thing that is good to me is that they're completely noiseless, even through high gain. It sounds like a single coil, not lie a small humbucker, that is what I wanted.

I mainly play hard rock and metal, malmsteen, Iron Maiden, this sort of things, on the neck the HB2 is very dark and sweet, not muddy at all. Good match with the Pro Solo, that screams but it's not ear piercing in the high frequency.

In general, I'll recommend it, but take into account that it's NOT a traditional Strat sound.


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Post subject: Re: DiMarzio Heavy Blues 2
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:34 pm
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Hisham Seif-Eldin wrote:
Does anybody have experience with Dimarzio Heavy blues 2. They sound great on the Dimarzio website, I wonder if they do in real life.


Swapped them into my Buddy Guy Polka Dot about 5 years ago. Had the HB in the bridge position the vintage blues in the middle, and neck.
No hum and tough sounding.

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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:59 pm
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In general, I'll recommend it, but take into account that it's NOT a traditional Strat sound.


Thanks cuthbert that's exactly what I was trying to know. So what would be a strat like hum canceling pickup ? I've been directed to Dimarzio's and Kinamns ? whats your take on that?

anybody has ideas in this area??


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No hum and tough sounding.


zzdoc what do you mean by "tough sounding" if i may ask ... thanks
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:59 pm
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]No hum and tough sounding.
zzdoc what do you mean by "tough sounding" if i may ask ... thanks cheers[/quote]

Not the classic 'glassy' Strat sound. Has more bottom as I can remember.

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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:24 pm
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]No hum and tough sounding.
zzdoc what do you mean by "tough sounding" if i may ask ... thanks cheers


Not the classic 'glassy' Strat sound. Has more bottom as I can remember.[/quote]. The pickup was actually the original HB at the bridge, and Vintage Blues middle and neck. Black covers matched the guitar...looked most excellent. Sounded great. Had to get rid of the hum in those MIM's. Did some research. They were perfect for the task. The next step would have been Lace Sensors. More correct to what the artist uses.

Go to the DiMarzio web site. They pretty much corroborate what I said. More mids and bottom.

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Post subject: Re: DiMarzio Heavy Blues 2
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:11 am
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Hisham Seif-Eldin wrote:
Thanks cuthbert that's exactly what I was trying to know. So what would be a strat like hum canceling pickup ? I've been directed to Dimarzio's and Kinamns ? whats your take on that?

anybody has ideas in this area??


Well, honestly I can't say that it's because of the technology they used to create a noiseless pickup, BTW Dimarzio states that it's exactly the same they use of the Area '58, that seems to be very popular on this board.

I used to own a Dimarzio SDS-1, one of the best single coils I ever heard, a pity that it was noisy, surely it didn't sound like a "traditional" vintage Fender, therefore I assume the difference isn't due to the noiseless but to the fact that for the HB2 and Solo Pro they wanted to create a high output pickup that sounded like a single coil. The original fender single coil was NOT high output, therefore the result is different.

I don't have experience with Kinmans, but I visited his site and I already understood the man, somebody who needs to discredit his competitors isn't to be taken seriously, plus a guy who used his pickups said that they sounded "hard".

For the noiseless, I tried the SCN, the Dimarzio HS-2,3, YJM, the SD hot stacks (on a Jackson), the heavy blues 2 and the Solo pro, they ALL sounded different, also because they are radically different design (aka patents), therefore I don't think we can discuss about the sound of the Noiseless Pickup but the sound of these pickups taken case by case.


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Post subject: Re: DiMarzio Heavy Blues 2
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:14 am
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zzdoc wrote:
[ The pickup was actually the original HB at the bridge, and Vintage Blues middle and neck. Black covers matched the guitar...looked most excellent. Sounded great. Had to get rid of the hum in those MIM's. Did some research. They were perfect for the task. The next step would have been Lace Sensors. More correct to what the artist uses.

Go to the DiMarzio web site. They pretty much corroborate what I said. More mids and bottom.

Rock on!!


I do agree with the analysis, I like their sound a lot, both clean and distorted. I have a '57 Mary Kaye and besides the output, I need to get rid of the noise, it's very difficult to play through a DOD250.

Personally, I'm thinking about the Lace holy grails, because I'd like to have a more vintage sound on that Strat, but I'm also tempted to forget the "vintage specs" and install a battery of Lace hot gold.


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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:03 am
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[quote="cuthbert"][quote="zzdoc"]:

Re: 'Search for the lost chord' My general feeling is that once original equipment is swapped out so goes the term 'vintage'. "Vintage' feel is a different vibe, but go for it.

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Post subject: Re: DiMarzio Heavy Blues 2
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:01 am
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zzdoc wrote:
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Re: 'Search for the lost chord' My general feeling is that once original equipment is swapped out so goes the term 'vintage'. "Vintage' feel is a different vibe, but go for it.


I'm not interested in "vintage" sound, I think it's overrated, like a famous luthier once said: "the first sound became a legend, but even if it was different, the story wouldn't have changed".

Honestly, I don't understand the attachment of some for the flaws of old design, surely as invention the Strat was one of the brigthest ideas ever, but what's the point in keeping the 60 cycle hum, the high action, ridicously heavy strings etc...?


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Post subject: Re: DiMarzio Heavy Blues 2
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:37 am
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[quote="cuthbert"][quote="zzdoc"][quote="cuthbert"][quote="zzdoc"]:



Re: 'Search for the lost chord' --as I said...by all means..go for it :wink:

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Post subject: Re: DiMarzio Heavy Blues 2
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]No hum and tough sounding.
zzdoc what do you mean by "tough sounding" if i may ask ... thanks cheers


Not the classic 'glassy' Strat sound. Has more bottom as I can remember.
. The pickup was actually the original HB at the bridge, and Vintage Blues middle and neck. Black covers matched the guitar...looked most excellent. Sounded great. Had to get rid of the hum in those MIM's. Did some research. They were perfect for the task. The next step would have been Lace Sensors. More correct to what the artist uses.

Go to the DiMarzio web site. They pretty much corroborate what I said. More mids and bottom.

Rock on!![/quote]

What Lace Sensors combination would you recommend to keep with the sound of the DiMarzio Vintage Blues and Vintage Blues 2?

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What Lace Sensors combination would you recommend to keep with the sound of the DiMarzio Vintage Blues and Vintage Blues 2?[/quote]

Go to the Actodyne Industries website for Lace Sensors. You'll have to compare the specs of the HB2 with the Lace Line. There's a whole new series of colors these days, and I have not paid much attention to them . Buddy Guy uses the Gold Lace which are more 'vintage' in tone.

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