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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:17 am
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The way I figure it, you can call them whatever you want but they are not real Fender Stratocasters!!!

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The way I figure it, you can call them whatever you want but they are not real Fender Stratocasters!!!

Tokai makes the Fender MIJ Stratocasters :shock:
And Leo Fender was the L in G&L :shock:

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G&L's are great guitars. I've used an ASAT and Commanche for recording many times, amazing guitars.

I have to say their quality or something seems to be slipping. I was always very impressed with them, but have found some of the newer stuff not quite up to the previous level they set.


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I personally would not consider G&L a copy. After all, the strat is the brainchild of Leo Fender - so when he started G&L and started making guitars, as far as I am concerned they are strats also....
Just my opinion...


Yikes! G&L just might be more Fender than Fender (is that heresy?). As noted elsewhere the L in G&L is for Leo Fender. The G is George Fullerton who was a manager at the original Fender company. G&L's build quality has been said to approach that of Fender's Custom Shop. Leo took his original designs and tried to improve upon them. Still, I think I know what you mean. It's not a "real" Fender.

BTW, I always wondered how people got away with making Strat copies. Japanese companies have been churning them out since the mid-'60s and I never heard of anyone taking legal action against them. Leo must have had patents and the Strat body certainly was unique back in the day. Yet, I've never heard of a "Lawsuit Strat".


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i hate them!!!


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Don't really care...? They don't destroy the fenders, so what is the big deal? They can copy as much as they want to but they still won't get the same beautiful tone as fenders! 8)


Ibanez, ESP, Gibson, Yamaha, Gretch, Godin, PRS, Jackson.... have their own tone, and Fender has a "Fender" tone. Every guitar has a diffrent tone. Respect it... 8)

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The knock-offs are cool looking sometimes, but they will never come close to rivaling a traditional Fender Strat.


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right. :roll:
Yes, and American cars were the best. Manufacturers should not rest on laurels. Because they are getting very crafty overseas. You got an MIA strat?


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Yikes! G&L just might be more Fender than Fender (is that heresy?).


It's a Fender, Jim, but not as we know it...

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Beam me up, Scotty!


I consider the Strat-Like-Objects (SOLs) as "starter Strats." They are good for beginners with small budgets ... when they get better (and have more money), then it's time for a real Fender Strat.

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Yea, I started out with a Washburn Strat look-a-like. I think that it helped shape my preferences in guitars. But as others said, it did look like a Strat but it sounded nothing like one. It's tone was completely muddy even with new strings. It really had no crisp tone like a real Strat does. Also if I went more then a month without changing the strings it would start buzzing like crazy.

After I heard my friends Strat I had to get a real Strat fast.


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EddieVanHelen wrote:
FredeJyllMusic wrote:
Don't really care...? They don't destroy the fenders, so what is the big deal? They can copy as much as they want to but they still won't get the same beautiful tone as fenders! 8)


Ibanez, ESP, Gibson, Yamaha, Gretch, Godin, PRS, Jackson.... have their own tone, and Fender has a "Fender" tone. Every guitar has a diffrent tone. Respect it... 8)



What??????????? I never said that it was bad that the Ibanez, ESP, Gibson, Yamaha, Gretch, Godin, PRS, and Jackson guitars don't have the same tone as strats! So what's the big deal?! 8)


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I wouldn't hump a transvestite just because it looks like a woman, so why would I play something that looks like a Strat but isn't? :twisted:

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for a $1000 strat I hope they bought you dinner. :roll:


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There is one thing that Fender learned from the Japanese copy era in the '70s --- that's to offer Strats at prices points over a wide range of prices. In the '70s, there was only one Fender Stratocaster model, but the Japanese offered many models at different prices (usually encoded in the model number, in fact). Now every manufacturer is doing that, even if they have to use foreign manufacturers for the "budget" models.

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