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Post subject: Olympic White Stratocasters
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:39 am
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Does the pick guard age to mint green or does it only come on the 62' reissue stratocaster?

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i dont know if it will look that green...i am guessing in time it will darken up a bit...but i have a 62 ri in oly white with the mint green and it is sooo sweet


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I love that look.
It sure is sharp! :D


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That would look good

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"Mint Green" (really an off-white) is a modern color of plastic available for pickguards, knobs and pickup covers that is meant to emulate the look of certain genuine aged plastic parts. I think I remember that Orvilleowner has a Strat with real parts that have gone that color, which perhaps he will post for us if we're lucky.

Different plastics of the past aged in different ways. "Aged White" is another take on the look, again available on aftermarket parts, as well as coming on some reissues (the pickup covers on the Classic 50s Strat for instance, if I recall correctly).

People also do other things to give plastic that aged look. Some steep them in coffee, for example. And we did have a gentleman on this site who was asking about peeing on his pickguard to age it: the consensus was against him on that one...

Some folks just own and play their guitars for many years and discover they got the look without trying.

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:19 pm
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That's a picture I took to demonstrate various shades of "white" pickguards. While the picture isn't the greatest (I had a hard time getting the right amount of light/flash), it does shows the contrast of shades. From top to bottom, they are:

a new MIM Standard -- the whitest of them all
a new parchment from an American Series
a well used one from a 1974 Strat (you can see the contrasting whiter plastic that was under the knobs)
and a very greened old one on an L series 1964 Strat.

http://www.provide.net/~cfh/fender.html gives this info:

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Multi-layer pickguards: starting in mid-1959 Fender switched to a 3 layer pickguard (w/b/w) made from Celluloid on most models. These celluloid 'guards had an outer white layer with a mint green/yellow tint, thus giving them the name "green 'guard". The amount of green/yellow depends on the abuse and UV the pickguard was subject to. To some degree the effect is not only caused by age and sun, but the "felting" of the black layer below the white layer. This material was used till January 1965 when Fender switched to vinyl or ABS for their multilayer pickguards (Celluloid was dangerous and very flamable, and shrunk with time causing cracks). Sometimes these pickguards are called "nitrate 'guards" because nitric acid is one of the key ingredients used to make celluloid. The 1965 and later white pickguards do yellow a bit with age. But even aged white 'guards look much different than the older "green" 'guards.


and check out this link http://guitarhq.com/fenddiff/repro_pickguards.jpg

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You can buy 11hole mint green Fender pickgaurds. Just look them up.


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That link I gave above, shows a picture that suggests the amount of green varied over the years. It seems it got deeper from 1959 thru 1964. Perhaps the Italian supplier "cut corners" to save money after getting the contract in 1959 and finally Fender cut them off to find really white pickguard material?

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I just bought a digital camera yesterday so I can reply to topics like this now. Now let's see if I can get a picture properly linked to this message...

Here is a picture of the pick guard on my 1965 Black Strat. It shows the yellow tint that develops with age on the vinyl/ABS pick guards.

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Hmmm, the picture linked okay but there is code showing above and below it. My picture posting needs work. So do my digital camera skills. :)

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[quote="orvilleowner"][img]That's a picture I took to demonstrate various shades of "white" pickguards.

.....how did you put that one together :!: :?:

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orvilleowner wrote:
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That's a picture I took to demonstrate various shades of "white" pickguards. While the picture isn't the greatest (I had a hard time getting the right amount of light/flash), it does shows the contrast of shades. From top to bottom, they are:

a new MIM Standard -- the whitest of them all
a new parchment from an American Series
a well used one from a 1974 Strat (you can see the contrasting whiter plastic that was under the knobs)
and a very greened old one on an L series 1964 Strat.

http://www.provide.net/~cfh/fender.html gives this info:

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Multi-layer pickguards: starting in mid-1959 Fender switched to a 3 layer pickguard (w/b/w) made from Celluloid on most models. These celluloid 'guards had an outer white layer with a mint green/yellow tint, thus giving them the name "green 'guard". The amount of green/yellow depends on the abuse and UV the pickguard was subject to. To some degree the effect is not only caused by age and sun, but the "felting" of the black layer below the white layer. This material was used till January 1965 when Fender switched to vinyl or ABS for their multilayer pickguards (Celluloid was dangerous and very flamable, and shrunk with time causing cracks). Sometimes these pickguards are called "nitrate 'guards" because nitric acid is one of the key ingredients used to make celluloid. The 1965 and later white pickguards do yellow a bit with age. But even aged white 'guards look much different than the older "green" 'guards.


and check out this link http://guitarhq.com/fenddiff/repro_pickguards.jpg

orville this is a good pic you have here to show the difference in these guards .

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john.bohn wrote:
Here is a picture of the pickguard on my 1965 Black Strat. It shows the yellow tint that develops with age on the vinyl/ABS pickguards.


Thanks for sharing that. Nice, I like it.

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.....how did you put that one together :!: :?:


I just laid some pickguards I had at the house on top of my late-1964 with the VERY dark green pickguard.

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Hmmm, the picture linked okay but there is code showing above and below it. My picture posting needs work. So do my digital camera skills.


You might try cropping the picture too, for size purposes.

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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:03 am
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zzdoc wrote:
.....how did you put that one together :!: :?:

I just laid some pickguards I had at the house on top of my late-1964 with the VERY dark green pickguard.

Such was my suspicion. Just the kind of stuff most of us having laying around. What other kinds of toys do you have squirreled away in that 'Strat-attic' of yours? :?:

Personal choice....the one on the guitar is definitely the way to go! 8)

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Just the kind of stuff most of us having laying around. What other kinds of toys do you have squirreled away in that 'Strat-attic' of yours? :?:


Besides those pickguards, not so much stuff anymore ... the doubleneck project I made in the Spring of 2007 used up a lot of parts, vintage pickups especially. It needed 6 single coils you know! :wink:

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