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Post subject: Tony Iommi used a Strat on the 1st Black Sabbath album?
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:28 pm
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I was doing some reading up Black Sabbath's first album on the net and found out that Tony Iommi started doing the 1st album on a Stratocaster on the song Wicked World when all of a sudden his pickup fizzled out and said back in those days you couldn't just buy pickups so he had used his SG as a backup and finished the album with that. One of those songs it was used on was Wicked World.

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I remember hearing something like that too.

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That was very hard for me to believe but I saw a picture of him with the 2 Strats on the net. His main guitar was supposed to be the Strat and then when the pickups fizzled out on him in the middle of the 1st album he used his Gibson SG as the backup and finished the album with that and has been using Gibson SGs ever since. On the first album he used a Laney stack going through a Dallas Rangemaster Treble booster also. Both the 1st and 2nd albums were in E tuning and wasn't until the 3rd album (Master Of Reality) that he tuned down to C#. That's why that album sounded so heavy. A Rangemaster Booster wasn't really a fuzz but more of a treble booster that Clapton, Blackmore and other English guitarists used in those days to push the amp harder and put it into more of a treblized distortion mode not quite so much as a fuzz box but it gave more of a crunch sound. Hard to believe. I think I'm going to relisten to that album again but here's link:

http://www.iommi.com/equipment/fender_stratocasters.htm

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Iommi was certainly a key developer of THE HEAVY METAL guitar sound.

Those early albums are wonderful.

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That's certainly true. The very first developer of the heavy metal riffs and the first to detune down. I fixed the link by the way.

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For something truly "wierd" check out The Rolling Stones Rock n Roll Circus video. It's an early music video/movie with a number of acts appearing including the Stones, Marianne Faithfull, and Jethro Tull.

Anyway in the Tony Iommi is actually a member of Tull (yes it happened for a very brief moment) and he is playing a Strat.

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I have seen video of him playing Strats.

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mthorn00 wrote:
For something truly "wierd" check out The Rolling Stones Rock n Roll Circus video. It's an early music video/movie with a number of acts appearing including the Stones, Marianne Faithfull, and Jethro Tull.

The circus was a one-off television variety show hosted by the Stones. The Who's performance was absolutely amazing...

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orvilleowner wrote:
Iommi was certainly a key developer of THE HEAVY METAL guitar sound.

Those early albums are wonderful.


I agree..... :)

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I would venture that Tony DID invent the heavy HM sound. Honestly who was doing it prior to Sabbath?

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I've seen Tony on TV telling the story about blowing the pickups on his Strat. However, I've never known what songs he used it on. I've always suspected the blues interlude in Warning of being the Strat.

But as far as I know, Tony detuned when Sabbath was still a blue band called Earth. The detuning came from necessity. He accidentally destroyed the tips of his middle & ring finger on his (right) fretting hand on a saw blade. If you look at photos, you'll see he wears false fingertips on them. The E tuning of his strings was both painful and hard to manipulate, so he detuned his guitar. He had to reteach himself to play with those fingers as well.

He's also said it worked out for the better because Ozzy's voice worked great playing in the resulting keys.


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Alright Symptom let me rephrase it....who did it before Tony?

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Hendrix!!!

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Hendrix!?

Naaw not detuned and powerchorded and, well, evil sounding.

Great tone, fuzz and everything else. He is arguably the most revolutinoary guy to come along. But Hendrix ain't metal by a long shot.

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mthorn00 wrote:
I would venture that Tony DID invent the heavy HM sound. Honestly who was doing it prior to Sabbath?


Clapton's sound with Cream got close to HM on some songs.

Some of the earlier "heavy" bands (Steppenwolf, Blue Cheer, Iron Butterfly) were more Fuzz toned than the sound Tony came up with.

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