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sorry mate i completely missed that in your post :oops:

of course you are correct if the bridge is flush adding strings wont cause any problem. I am sure however that hendrix had his trems in float. If you watch the ready steady go (lulu show) footage there are definite pull ups in both hey joe and voodoo chile. Also im quite sure there are a few at the woodstock gig. Its been years since i saw either though and i could very well be wrong.

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one thing nobody has thought to mention is

Have the neck screws worked loose? They can do from time to time its no biggie, just check their tight enough with a screwdriver.

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I had a room mate that had a wammy Strat and I had a hard tail; he had nothing but probelms staying in tune; (his was a 70s strat) while I had no problems; I don't use it so I block all my trems.
I don't think I understand what's happeniong when the string is bent either but I think that has to do more with my playing style.
I've never had a string go flat on a hard tail from bending notes and I'm one heck of a bender.


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The neck screws looses is always possible..but wouldn't there be more issues noticed other then low e going flat during bends? All my floating setups did the same thing and it is normal for a floating bridge.

As far as Hendrix I highly doubt he required a floating setup..it is his playing style..which is so bizzare he would make the ax do un natural things..you couldn't always tell just by looking. But he used all 5 springs so if it was floating he must have been using bass strings on his ax...lol,

I highly doubt that was the case.

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I had a room mate that had a wammy Strat and I had a hard tail; he had nothing but probelms staying in tune; (his was a 70s strat) while I had no problems; I don't use it so I block all my trems.
I don't think I understand what's happeniong when the string is bent either but I think that has to do more with my playing style.
I've never had a string go flat on a hard tail from bending notes and I'm one heck of a bender.


That's because you would have to be Superman to have fingers that strong. If the strings are lights then it has little chance of bending the pitch anything noticable by ear. If the strings are heavy then it would require super human strength to bend against the neck and trussrod tension with a hardtail...so I would think that myth is busted.

And correct...floating trems have tuning issues..period. I know this from plenty of experience first hand. Has well I have owned a hardtail strat also. Loved it. But all our Fenders used 4 springs on the stock bridges. We can still use the trems for dive bombs etc..but have no tuning or going flat issues whatsoever.

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install realplayer and watch this


http://www.gitaarnet.nl/video/carlverheyen/carlverheyen-setup-hoog.ram

i followed this blokes advice dilligently and have never had a problem with my 57hotrod's tuning. Just take it out the case and its ready to go. it still drops pitch when you bend a string if you dont palm the trem.

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Ive always played my MIM Strat with 3 springs. I read the book on how fender sets its floating bridge up, and ive never once had a pitch drop problem when bending another string


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Ive always played my MIM Strat with 3 springs. I read the book on how fender sets its floating bridge up, and ive never once had a pitch drop problem when bending another string


That's because it is not a "problem", it is natural physics "every action has an equal and opposite reaction".

However if it bothers a player that doesn't require a floating setup on their ax, (or the players technique is causing it to become noticable by ear) or, it is extreme such as the OP states, the obvious first step towards a solution is to increase the spring tension.

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If you don't feel the need to add extra springs try adjust the claw screws more in the back of the guitar and see if this helps before adding any more springs. With 5 srings it wil help but the bar will be harder (stiffer) to use if you want to use it.

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If you don't feel the need to add extra springs try adjust the claw screws more in the back of the guitar and see if this helps before adding any more springs. With 5 srings it wil help but the bar will be harder (stiffer) to use if you want to use it.


+1

I overlooked that since we out of habit always use 4 springs on our Fender trems, I guess it is a tradition with us.

But correct, if the claw is presently not screwed in all the way..by all means you can add tension that way.

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