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Oh, and after that's done, I'm thinking about replacing the bridge ScN pup with the SD JB Jr. I'm only worried about whether it would kill the brightness?


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Get teach to do the set up.
sacrifice your lesson to have him sort it out, watch him closely and ask questions too. Its as much a valid lesson as any playing technique. Thats pretty much what i did all through my early years.

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When you screwed the tremolo springs in, it probably affected your intonation by changing the string lengths because of the added tension. That would be my first guess. How old are your tremolo springs? I had an Ibanez that I had to replace the tremolo springs because they were so old that they lost their strength and it would no longer hold tune until I replaced them.


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I'm hoping he will try to do the setup, but the last time I talked to him about my playability problem, he just said that strats are harder to play. The screws and springs are only a couple of years old. I guess it was my fault as I probably overtightened them when I first got the guitar. Although, I do remember problems with staying in tune even before I opened the back of the guitar, like, on the first night after purchase. Now it's smooth to play, but won't stay in tune. Anyway, I'm leaving for my guitar lesson in about an hour, I'll get back to you guys with new ideas when I get back :D


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A440 is the standard calibration tone for correct tuning of instruments in the Western world.


Banal point of interest: not if you are the Berlin Philharmonic it isn't. Try A445.

As Leonard Bernstein found out when he took a bunch of American musicians to perform with that magnificent orchestra after the fall of the Berlin wall. Some hair-raising cross-cultural moments on that gig...

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Ceri wrote:
Wally Dow wrote:
A440 is the standard calibration tone for correct tuning of instruments in the Western world.


Banal point of interest: not if you are the Berlin Philharmonic it isn't. Try A445.

As Leonard Bernstein found out when he took a bunch of American musicians to perform with that magnificent orchestra after the fall of the Berlin wall. Some hair-raising cross-cultural moments on that gig...

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I bet that could play havoc with a brass or a reed instrument designed for tone and perfect tuning at A440.

Thanks for that piece of info. I was not aware that they recalibrated in Berlin to that frequency.

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So, I'm back. My teach said that my springs seem a little too soft, and that I should buy and install 2 more springs (there were only 3 but room for 5). Then he said that I should tighten my screws a bit. He also said that the neck is a little bit crooked and that the strings seem a little too high on the head side. I looked up a guitarmaster who could repair all this, but it costs way too much (I'm guessing about 500$). So, I don't know what to do now. I guess I could try fixing it up myself.


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So, I'm back. My teach said that my springs seem a little too soft, and that I should buy and install 2 more springs (there were only 3 but room for 5). Then he said that I should tighten my screws a bit. He also said that the neck is a little bit crooked and that the strings seem a little too high on the head side. I looked up a guitarmaster who could repair all this, but it costs way too much (I'm guessing about 500$). So, I don't know what to do now. I guess I could try fixing it up myself.


Did you buy it new or used?

Also, I would say it would cost no where near that much to straighten out a neck problem like a small twist.

Even a new neck shouldn't cost that much ...!

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Yeah, I figured that out too, I guess I misread something :D
My plan now is to:
1) buy thinner strings
2) lower the strings
3) buy new tougher springs and add them to the 3
4) straighten the neck

If all that doesn't work, then I'm taking it to a specialist. And it was new when I bought it.


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Yeah, I figured that out too, I guess I misread something :D
My plan now is to:
1) buy thinner strings
2) lower the strings
3) buy new tougher springs and add them to the 3
4) straighten the neck

If all that doesn't work, then I'm taking it to a specialist. And it was new when I bought it.


Then the neck should be covered under warranty. Don't mess with trying to fix it, unless it is definitely "out of warranty".

If it is unrepairable, then Fender will give you a new neck.

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Oh, no worries. It's only slightly crooked, easily fixable. I'm gonna fix it during my next lesson. I really want to get it all in top shape already, because I want to change my pups and buy a new amp, but I can't think of that, when my strat is out of order :D Thinking about JB Jrs and a Marshall JCM 800. My teach also suggested putting a JCM 800 together myself.


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Wally Dow wrote:
Ceri wrote:
Wally Dow wrote:
A440 is the standard calibration tone for correct tuning of instruments in the Western world.


Banal point of interest: not if you are the Berlin Philharmonic it isn't. Try A445.

As Leonard Bernstein found out when he took a bunch of American musicians to perform with that magnificent orchestra after the fall of the Berlin wall. Some hair-raising cross-cultural moments on that gig...

Cheers - C


I bet that could play havoc with a brass or a reed instrument designed for tone and perfect tuning at A440.

Thanks for that piece of info. I was not aware that they recalibrated in Berlin to that frequency.


(To interupt this thread again - sorry...) Yes, havoc indeed. The Berlin orchestra is so well drilled that in theory Bernstein could turn up and conduct that very famous concert with minimal preperation. As a symbol of reunification various guest musicians were brought to take part in Beethoven's Ninth, at Leaping Lenny's instigation.

I heard a very scary interview with a reed player who was describing how he just couldn't get his instrument to match the A445 pitch of the BPO, no matter what. In the end with time running out he had to desperately hack his mouthpiece about with a Swiss army knife in order to play the piece, and worry about the damage later...

That Berlin Phil' sound comes at a price!

Not that any of this belongs on the Stratocaster Forum - sorry!

Cheers - C


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I heard that there was a way of locking the tremolo. How does that work?


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I heard that there was a way of locking the tremolo. How does that work?


Put in 5 springs and tighten down the screws on the trem claw until the back of the bridge sits firmly down on the body of the guitar. BUT, the guitar will still need a setup after you that.

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That's what I did when I first got the guitar. That's when I lost the playability. I mean, I was looking at another thread (don't remember which one anymore) and some guy had his tremolo locked with this special little thingy, without having to screw the screws in.


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