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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:40 pm
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Oh dear, Orvilleowner: what have you done? You showed me how to navigate websites in Japanese - and I told you that you mightn't hear from me for a day or two while I went shopping, which is how it indeed worked out ... I seem to have acquired a Japanese Strat. So I bought myself a Japanese 57 Reissue.


You were able to find it in a local shop? Lucky. We in North America have to try to wrangle the things from Japan.

Darn those Fender folks for cutting the US Japanese line up to almost nothing! Yeah, I know it happened 10 years ago, but a guy can still be mad!

Oh yeah: Sorry to cause the GAS, but WHERE are the pics?

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Oh dear, Orvilleowner: what have you done? You showed me how to navigate websites in Japanese - and I told you that you mightn't hear from me for a day or two while I went shopping, which is how it indeed worked out ... I seem to have acquired a Japanese Strat. So I bought myself a Japanese 57 Reissue.


You were able to find it in a local shop? Lucky. We in North America have to try to wrangle the things from Japan.

Darn those Fender folks for cutting the US Japanese line up to almost nothing! Yeah, I know it happened 10 years ago, but a guy can still be mad!

Oh yeah: Sorry to cause the GAS, but WHERE are the pics?


Patience, Mr Owner! I only placed the order yesterday, Sunday. I haven't even heard back yet whether the guitar is in the same country as me or if I will have to wait for it to travel from Japan. If that journey is made by sea then I have a while to wait.

You will see it soon after I do.

Very nervous now. I've been lucky buying guitars sight-unseen, so far. But there is always a first time for it to go wrong. Should I have bought a Mexican 50s Strat instead, 30 percent cheaper? Will my old distaste for one-piece pickguards suddenly reawaken as soon as I see my new git? Will those "US Vintage" pickups sound like thin trash? Will my fingernails grow fast enough to survive all this biting? Stay tooned...

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Ceri wrote:
Will those "US Vintage" pickups sound like thin trash? Will my fingernails grow fast enough to survive all this biting? Stay tooned...


Okay, tooned I am. As for the "US Vintage" pickups, if they are the "Original '57/'62" pickups, they will not sound like thin trash. If they do, you may need to buy a different amp! (What amp(s) do you use?)

Please give us details of your transaction (a UK store, ebay, or Japan store) when you post the pics. Cheers!

Here's a nice "Blackie" version ST57-US
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Ceri wrote:
Will those "US Vintage" pickups sound like thin trash? Will my fingernails grow fast enough to survive all this biting? Stay tooned...


Okay, tooned I am. As for the "US Vintage" pickups, if they are the "Original '57/'62" pickups, they will not sound like thin trash. If they do, you may need to buy a different amp! (What amp(s) do you use?)

Please give us details of your transaction (a UK store, ebay, or Japan store) when you post the pics. Cheers!


Mine is the red Strat about a quarter way down this page, and from this seller:

http://www.guitaremporium.co.uk/index.p ... uitars&a=1

I'm waiting to hear back from them on certain points: the order is not complete yet, and I've just been looking around and am beginning to think I may not take up the offer of a tweed case at that price after all. Generic ones can be had cheaper, even here - or do you think it is important for the guitar and case to come from the same source? This ain't exactly a collectable we are talking about...

Talking collectables, have you seen the thread just titled "stratocaster"? Everyone's going to be interested to hear your comments on that story...

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Ceri wrote:
Mine is the red Strat about a quarter way down this page, and from this seller:

http://www.guitaremporium.co.uk/index.p ... uitars&a=1


Oh, a "Hank Marvin" version!

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do you think it is important for the guitar and case to come from the same source? Talking collectables, have you seen the thread just titled "stratocaster"? Everyone's going to be interested to hear your comments on that story...


No, it's not important that the guitar and case come from the same place. Unless they don't have the original packaging, the guitar might be shipped separately from the case!

You mean, vicvtr's story? I didn't follow it very closely. Do we know what he ended up selling it for and what "they" sold it for? He was in South Africa? That would limit his ability to sell it himself (to be trusted, etc, what with Nigerian Schemes and all of that scamming), so that was probably the best he could have done. Though, it does sound like his buyer was a little less than honest with him.

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If fender were to only sell one colour and type of strat in the uk, it would have to be a fiesta red 50's marvin job. It oozes class. Nice choice, im sure the preference of pickguard issue wont be a problem for long. A 3 ply just wouldnt look right on that red.

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Hi All

Haven't read the whole thread (Too Busy) but for those havng tuning issues Take a look at the information on Chris Kinmans Sit (the pickup guy) He has some excellent info on there - worth a look. Take a specific note of how to wrap the strings around the posts.

http://www.kinman.com/html/toneWorkshop/perfectGuitar.htm

Since following his advice I no longer had any tuning problems at all - although I did buy a graphtec string tree to stop the B string goping flat after bending- I also use Nut-Sauce. it worked. I can now play a full set without gong out of tune even with Moderate TRem work and lots of bending (oo-err)

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I saw a guy on YouTube using his wammy on his Strat. He was dive bombing on and everything and that thing came perfectly right back in tune. So there must be something you can do about it. Also this guy talks about setup and intonation so he must know something about the trem and what he's done to go crazy and that thing come back in tune perfect.

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I saw a guy on YouTube using his trem on his Strat. He was dive bombing on it and everything and that thing came perfectly right back in tune. So there' must be something you can do about it. Also this guy talks about setup and intonation so he must know something about the trem and what he's done to go crazy and that thing came back in tune perfect. It can be done! But it most likely envolves a number of factors.

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My strat stays in tune pretty well for a while. I added two springs in the back to the claw so the springs would pick up the slack and now it almost never goes out of tune unless I try to do something crazy with it.


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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:48 am
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Whammy, or vibrato, arm systems have been incorrectly known as "tremolo" bars for too long. Tremelo is a changing effect of volume while vibrato is a changing effect in pitch.

That said, I will no longer own any guitar with a whammy system because they do go out of tune. And there is nothing worse than playing out of tune! It's not worth it for the small benefit of adding some vibrato, even though it does sound cool at times. Floating/locking systems are just way too much hassle to restring and tune and add too much weight. Plus, when recording, I can add vibrato effect in the mix.

An additional problem is that whammy systems tend to reduce the sustain of an electric guitar. I MUST have sustain.

But to each his own. I've definitely learned that in the world of guitar. Everybody has their own opinion. If people are willing to live with the problems of a whammy system for some vibrato, so be it.


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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:24 pm
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Whammy, or vibrato, arm systems have been incorrectly known as "tremolo" bars for too long. Tremelo is a changing effect of volume while vibrato is a changing effect in pitch.


Yes. But you won't change most of us on that. It was one of Leo Fender's famous solecisms that he confused tremolo and vibrato. We and the Company persist with it out of atavistic affection, and perhaps also because it feels more comfortable to talk about our trems, rather than our vibs.

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:39 pm
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Ceri wrote:
museseek wrote:
Whammy, or vibrato, arm systems have been incorrectly known as "tremolo" bars for too long. Tremelo is a changing effect of volume while vibrato is a changing effect in pitch.


Yes. But you won't change most of us on that. It was one of Leo Fender's famous solecisms that he confused tremolo and vibrato. We and the Company persist with it out of atavistic affection, and perhaps also because it feels more comfortable to talk about our trems, rather than our vibs.

Cheers - C


Leo Fender is the Yogi Berra of the guitar world? Well, this ain't over til it's over! I reject this solecism and urge others to do the same in the name of guitar correctness. If you have a problem with "vibs," try vibra, v-arm, or just whammy. Believe me, you'll feel better about yourself and you'll be making a valuable contribution to mankind. 8)


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