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Thank you very much for a reply.

I would like to ask a one more question - I apologise, if it has been asked on forums before.

What is a best way to take out tremolo springs?

Thank you in advance,

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For the short period while I had my Strats decked, I put foam ear plugs inbetween and amongst the trem springs(a tip picked up on a forum). The tone of the guitar is not really affected as much as the natural reverb that can occour when the springs are not muted, IMO. When either plugged in or played acoustically, both of my strats made a pronounced ringing when a D (tenth fret barre chord) was strummed, anywhere else the vibration of the springs was very little.

To remove tremolo springs loosen your strings, THEN remove the springs.


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There is a couple of songs I REALLY need it for, like Hendrix and Gilmour stuff, but I rarely use it in other contexts.


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M. Brown wrote:
For the short period while I had my Strats decked, I put foam ear plugs inbetween and amongst the trem springs(a tip picked up on a forum). The tone of the guitar is not really affected as much as the natural reverb that can occour when the springs are not muted, IMO. When either plugged in or played acoustically, both of my strats made a pronounced ringing when a D (tenth fret barre chord) was strummed, anywhere else the vibration of the springs was very little.


THIS HAS JUST HELPED ME A LOT

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I don't use the whammy but I would if the guitar was properly set up for it. When I got my first strat in 1980, I found the whammy gave me a lot of tuning problems so I set it up hardtail. I continued this when I got my second strat. Sometimes I would love to be able to have a whammy but I don't want the problems and changes in sound that I suspect will come from it. Someday I hope to have a Jazzmaster and I plan to use the whammy bar on that.


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M. Brown wrote:
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To remove tremolo springs loosen your strings, THEN remove the springs.


Thank you very much for the reply.

I have prepared a drawing (I'm sorry for its quality :) ) to better explain my further question :

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In my guitar I have 3 springs, one of them in the center and two remaining are placed not parallel to the "central" one, but across (I hope it can be seen on the drawing).

When strings are removed, tension on springs is still very high. Should I reduce the distance to bridge by loosing screws?

Thank you in advance.

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When strings are removed, tension on springs is still very high. Should I reduce the distance to bridge by loosing screws?


No, don't mess with anything! Put your new strings on and everything will be as it was once it's back in tune. Are you changing string size? Do you want to change the amount of "float"?

BYW, I keep my trem springs parallel, but it's not necessary.

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When strings are removed, tension on springs is still very high. Should I reduce the distance to bridge by loosing screws?


No, don't mess with anything! Put your new strings on and everything will be as it was once it's back in tune. Are you changing string size? Do you want to change the amount of "float"?

BYW, I keep my trem springs parallel, but it's not necessary.


Hello,
I've been reading this section, and I do use my whammy on my stratocasters quite a lot, and very aggresively when I do. It can be a real pain to get rid of the tuning problems with these, but I seem to do pretty well with them.
My Strats have the springs arranged the same way yours are, with the center spring in line, and the outer two angled to the claw hook. Since I am heavy-handed with the tremolo, this just seems to give me a little more stability. If you loosen the screws on your guitar, you'll raise the back of your bridge higher than it is now. This will also raise your action, (string height). The only time I adjust those screws is if I'm changing my tuning from standard to half-step below pitch. That is when I'll adjust the screws 1/4 turn at a time and tune up to check the balance of the bridge. The same goes when switching to a different string gauge.

Harley 8)

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Fat divebombs! :lol:


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Fat divebombs! :lol:


Yep, and the LSR roller nut really helps that happen when you can't make the original nut work for you

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Hi,

thank you all for replies.

My question about loosing screws was connected with my doubts about whether I will be able to put tremolo springs back in place, if I remove them.
It is because tension of springs is very high (I might not be strong enough :) ).

Would you advice loosing screws just for removing springs and coming back to initial state after springs are put back in place?

Thank you in advance,

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Yes loosen the screws and detune the strings before you remove the springs. I put a small piece of duct tape on top of the screw right next to the guitar body before i loosen it, so when it all goes back together i can see nearly exactly where they should be.

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nikininja - thank you very much for advice, I was not sure whether to loosen screws.

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tomek wrote:
Hi,

thank you all for replies.

My question about loosing screws was connected with my doubts about whether I will be able to put tremolo springs back in place, if I remove them.
It is because tension of springs is very high (I might not be strong enough :) ).

Would you advice loosing screws just for removing springs and coming back to initial state after springs are put back in place?

Thank you in advance,

For simply removing the springs, I would not do anything to the screws at all. There is no reason to do that. The only reason you might possibly have to adjust the screws is if you put in springs with greater tension, or lesser tension than the ones in there now. If that is the case, then you may find your bridge does not float in it's properly balanced position. Then you may have to adjust the screws to compensate for something like this, otherwise, leave them be. A good rule of thumb with any musical instruments would be: "If it's not broke, don't fix it!"


Harley 8)

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For simply removing the springs, I would not do anything to the screws at all. There is no reason to do that. The only reason you might possibly have to adjust the screws is if you put in springs with greater tension, or lesser tension than the ones in there now. If that is the case, then you may find your bridge does not float in it's properly balanced position. Then you may have to adjust the screws to compensate for something like this, otherwise, leave them be. A good rule of thumb with any musical instruments would be: "If it's not broke, don't fix it!"


Harley 8)


Thank you very much.
I rather don't use tremolo (I have blocked it by placing a piece of wood in the space between tremolo block and guitar's body and at the top side of the guitar, bridge is "facing" body's surface). Unfortunately, I don't know what type of springs are placed in my guitar.
I will think it over, whether taking out springs will be necessary.

Thank you all again,

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