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Post subject: Question about mid-90's neck shapes and pickups.
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:32 am
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I have a 1996 American Standard, and I'm currently looking to buy another one from that era due to the my preference for whatever neck type/pickup combo Fender was using back then. Can someone tell me first, what type of neck and pick ups they were using in 1996, and also what year they decided to abandon them for whatever came next so I know where the cut off is?

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Post subject: Re: Question about mid-90's neck shapes and pickups.
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:06 am
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Information I found on line is:

The stock pickups were Alnico V's with flat pole pieces. In '97 they started using Texas Specials as well...but those pole pieces will be staggered.
The neck is a modern C with medium jumbo frets and a 9.5 radius.
The bridge/tremolo is the 2 screw system.
Couldn't find the actual cut-off, but early 2000's was mentioned.

This was on another guitar forum when I simply Googled "1996 fender american standard stratocaster specs"


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Post subject: Re: Question about mid-90's neck shapes and pickups.
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:43 am
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These float around in the web, but let's repeat:
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American Standard pre-2000 SPECS
Model Name: American Standard Stratocaster
Model Number: 010-7400-(Color#) and 010-7402-(Color#)
Series: American Standard Series
Body: Alder (Optional Swamp Ash Body Natural Finish Only pn# 010-7400/2-721)
Neck: Maple
Fingerboard: Rosewood (010-7400) or Maple (010-7402), (9.5” Radius/241 mm)
No. of Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Frets
Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)
Width @ Nut: 1.6875” (43 mm)
Hardware: Chrome
Machine Heads: Fender/Schaller Deluxe Cast/Sealed
Bridge: American Standard
Pickguard: 3-Ply White
Pickups: 3 American Standard Strat Single Coils
Pickup Switching: 5-Position Blade: Position 1. Bridge Pickup Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup
Position 3. Middle Pickup Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup Position 5. Neck
Pickup
Controls: Master Volume, Tone (Neck), TBX Tone (Mid, Bridge), Changed to Master Volume,
Tone 1. (Neck Pickup), Tone 2. New Delta-ToneTM system includes high output
bridge pickup and special “no-load” tone control (Middle and Bridge Pickups) in
late 1999
Colors: (700)* 3-Color Sunburst, add $50.00, (701)** White Blonde, add $150.00 for
Special Wood Requirements (705) Olympic White, (706) Black, (721)** Natural
Ash, add $150.00 for Special Wood Requirements, (724) Inca Silver, (774) Aqua
Marine Metallic, (793) Purple Metallic (Polyurethane Finish)
Strings: Fender Super Bullet 3250L’s (.009 to .042) Nickel Plated Steel pn#073-3250-003
Unique Features:
Source: U.S.
Accessories: Molded Case
U.S. MSRP: $1,049.99 (With Swamp Ash Body $1,199.99)
Specs: Prices and Specifications Subject to Change Without Notice
INTRODUCED: 1/1986
DISCONTINUED: 6/2000
DISCONTINUED COLORS: (732) Brown Sunburst, add $50.00 (1/98) (728)* Crimson Burst (1/97)
add $50.00, **Limited Edition Colors with Painted Headstock , (741) Vintage White
(4/97), (772) Sonic Blue (4/97) (705)** Olympic White (4/97), (702)** Lake Placid
Blue (4/97) (702) Lake Placid Blue, (7/98) (709) Candy Apple Red, (7/98)
COMMENTS: Replaced by the new "American Stratocaster" 6/2000,
Changed from TBX to Delta-Tone in late 1999 (Note: some sources say 1997)
WRENCH SIZES: Truss Rod Wrench #023811 (1/8” Hex)


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2000-2008 AMERICAN SERIES STRATOCASTER SPECS
MODEL NAME American Stratocaster®
MODEL NUMBER 011-7400-(Color #) and 011-7402-(Color #)
SERIES American Series
BODY Alder
NECK Maple, Modern “C” Shape, (Satin Polyurethane Finish)
FINGERBOARD Rosewood (p/n 011-7400) or Maple (p/n 011-7402), 9.5” Radius (241mm)
NO. OF FRETS 22 Medium Jumbo Frets
SCALE LENGTH 25.5” (648 mm)
WIDTH @ NUT 1.6875” (43 mm)
HARDWARE Chrome
MACHINE HEADS Fender®/Schaller® Deluxe Staggered Cast/Sealed Tuning Machines
BRIDGE American 2-Point Synchronized Tremolo with Stainless Steel Saddles
PICKGUARD 3-Ply Parchment On: (700)* 3-Color Sunburst, add $50.00, (705) Olympic White, (706) Black, (712) Candy Cola, (744) Shoreline Gold, (769) Charcoal Frost Metallic, 1-Ply Black On: (750) Butterscotch Blonde
PICKUPS 3 American Strat® Single-Coil Pickups
PICKUP SWITCHING 5-Position Blade: Position 1. Bridge Pickup Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup Position 3. Middle Pickup Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup Position 5. Neck Pickup
CONTROLS Master Volume, Tone 1. (Neck Pickup), Tone 2. New Delta ToneTM (“Delta Tone” system includes high output bridge pickup and special No-Load tone control for Middle and Bridge Pickups)
COLORS (700)* 3-Color Sunburst, *add $50.00, (712) Candy Cola, (705) Olympic White, (706) Black, (744) Shoreline Gold, (750) Butterscotch Blonde, (769) Charcoal Frost Metallic, (Polyurethane Finish)
STRINGS Fender® Super Bullets® 3250L, Nickel Plated Steel, (.009 to .042), p/n 073- 3250-003
UNIQUE FEATURES “Parchment” Knobs and Pickup Covers, Original Headstock Shape, Original Body Shape with “Original Contour Body” Decal on Headstock, Rolled Fingerboard Edges, H/S/H Pickup Routing
SOURCE U.S.
ACCESSORIES Standard Molded Case
U.S. MSRP $1,327.99
SPECS Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice
INTRODUCED 6/2000
DISCONTINUED 1/2008
DISCONTINUED COLORS (725) Chrome Red, Parchment PG, 1/2007, (795) Chrome Blue, BWB PG, 7/2006, (751) Sky Blue, 7/2003 (703)** 2-Color Sunburst, Ash Body, (available on 011-7402 Maple neck only) 7/2002, (701)** White Blonde, Ash Body, 1/2002, (715) Hot Rod Red, 1/2002, (721)** Natural, Ash Body, 1/2002, (774) Aqua Marine Metallic, 1/2002,
COMMENTS Uses Case P/N 0996101106, Replaces the American Standard Stratocaster 6/2000, American Series Stratocasters built in 2004 will have a special 50th Anniversary commemorative neck plate.
WRENCH SIZES Truss Rod/Tilt Adjust Wrench #0023811000 (1/8” Hex), Saddle Height Adjustment Wrench #0018531000 (.050” Hex)


Some comments: The 6/2000 time stamp is a bit vague, so to be sure, check the individual guitar. Same applies with the necks; there are minor variations due to the manual final shaping, especially with earlier nineties models - plus, necks may have aged very differently. And then there are the special editions, limiteds, dealer selects and other Fender oddities... :wink:


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Post subject: Re: Question about mid-90's neck shapes and pickups.
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:46 pm
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The easiest way to tell is the later has staggered pickup poles.
Other subtle differences as mentioned include hsh rather than swimming pool route which the earlier std had.
Funny how we all have our preferences since I much prefer the later ones.
I like the slightly rounder neck edge and find the pickups less boomy.
That is just my opinion of course! :D


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Post subject: Re: Question about mid-90's neck shapes and pickups.
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:56 pm
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Thanks everyone.

So what I've gathered from this, is that as long as I stay in the 1995-1999 range (trying to avoid anything older than that, due to the dreaded poplar era to which no one seems to have a clear cut answer), any American made Standard should have the same specs as my 1996? Is that right? Because if so, that's a pretty good swath of time to choose from.

I read somewhere that Fender changed the body contours in 1998, but apparently that's not true?


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Post subject: Re: Question about mid-90's neck shapes and pickups.
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:07 am
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Not sure why people get so fixated on wood type on a painted solid body guitar. And.....I don't need an explanation either because it ain't gonna make any sense to me. Alder, Poplar, Ash, Basswood, Veneer...whatever, played them all. Other than weight; I've never "heard" a difference; and it's the LAST thing I look for in a guitar that you're NOT gonna see the wood grain in.


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Post subject: Re: Question about mid-90's neck shapes and pickups.
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:39 pm
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White Dog wrote:
Not sure why people get so fixated on wood type on a painted solid body guitar. And.....I don't need an explanation either because it ain't gonna make any sense to me. Alder, Poplar, Ash, Basswood, Veneer...whatever, played them all. Other than weight; I've never "heard" a difference; and it's the LAST thing I look for in a guitar that you're NOT gonna see the wood grain in.


Well, I CAN hear the difference, though I don't think it's (the wood tone) as pronounced a some like to make it out to be.

But for me, it's about trying to make sure that the next Fender I buy gets as close to the one I currently own as possible. It's about eliminating as many variables as I can.


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Post subject: Re: Question about mid-90's neck shapes and pickups.
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:50 am
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Nintari wrote:
But for me, it's about trying to make sure that the next Fender I buy gets as close to the one I currently own as possible. It's about eliminating as many variables as I can.
I can understand that for sure.

And I agree, I too can hear differences in different guitars, but I also agree (for me and my ears) it is not so much the wood type of a solid guitar body so much as bridge, block, saddles, pickup's, nut, etc...

Acoustic guitars are a whole different ball game. Just got an all solid wood Guild for Christmas and it's WORLDS of difference from anything I have with veneer.


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Post subject: Re: Question about mid-90's neck shapes and pickups.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:32 pm
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White Dog wrote:
Nintari wrote:
But for me, it's about trying to make sure that the next Fender I buy gets as close to the one I currently own as possible. It's about eliminating as many variables as I can.
I can understand that for sure.

And I agree, I too can hear differences in different guitars, but I also agree (for me and my ears) it is not so much the wood type of a solid guitar body so much as bridge, block, saddles, pickup's, nut, etc...

Acoustic guitars are a whole different ball game. Just got an all solid wood Guild for Christmas and it's WORLDS of difference from anything I have with veneer.


Congrats on the acoustic. Guild's are pretty good guitars.

I've been asking my girlfriend to buy me a D45, but she just rolls her eyes. Women. Am I right?


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