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Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:30 am
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Can a half or a third shielding be called a shield
guitar?

OP will decide.


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Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:11 am
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stratele52 wrote:
Can a half or a third shielding be called a shield
guitar?

OP will decide.


Dude! You're like a dog with a bone. What does it matter what the extent of shielding is if it does the job?

If tone guru EJ considers it is acceptable I am sure it will be adequate for most of us.

It could of course be that his mystical EJness considers complete enclosure causes subtle tone differences in the pickups and is detrimental to his search for the holy grail of sound. Or it might just be it doesn't need it.

He even has his switch wired what some might consider upside down because he thinks it is better. I'm certainly not one to argue and have adopted his method...and I am completely unaware if it makes the slightest difference. But if EJ says it does so that is good enough for me.

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Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:28 am
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American Standards/American Series and models based on them have always had full shielding. They spray the cavities with black conductive paint early in the finishing process, then spray color coats on top (to reduce the chance of the black paint peeling/flaking and causing shorts).

Any Fender that has a ground wire screwed to the body has shielding paint in the cavities, even though you usually can't see the shielding paint. The screw and toothed washer cut through the color coat and contact the conductive paint (bad connections aren't uncommon). There wouldn't be any point in the wire and screw if there wasn't anything conductive to connect to.
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There are people who believe full shielding can dull the sound.

EJ claims the 2&4 positions sound different between 3 way and 5 way switches, so it's a safe bet he thinks he can hear full shielding and therefore requested vintage-style partial shielding.


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Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:32 am
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I bet, if old enough, we have all had taxi transmissions through our gear
Yes, John, I'm definitely old enough!!!

I always found a wah-wah pedal was the main offender. Depending where you left the foot-pedal (when switched on), a variety of radio messages could be part of your performance!

Have never had that problem with SC pups as such; just hum, which I think can only be lessened / defeated by standing somewhere else (relative to the amp)! I've tried shielding in the past, but remain unconvinced it's worth the agg.

Cheers - Peter.


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Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:11 am
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I usually have a guitar in my lap while web surfing. Back when my computer had a CRT monitor my MIM Classic'50s was almost unplayable due to the buzz. No matter how I turned, I couldn't find a null spot sitting that close to a strong noise emitter.

Just shielding the full pickguard made a huge difference. Still had to aim the guitar for silence, but it was a natural position so it was adequate. I assume full shielding would have given me a little more freedom of movement.

People have been performing with unshielded Strats for 60 years. Most of the time the noise is minimal or managable. Now that I have LCD monitors I could go back to just having the little patch of foil over the controls and never even notice.

But if you live in a house full of dimmer switches, or play in a bar with dozens of neon signs hanging around the stage, shielding can be a huge benefit. Especially if you use distortion.


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