It is currently Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:34 am

All times are UTC - 7 hours



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
Post subject: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:13 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:46 pm
Posts: 5
Out of curiosity, are Eric Johnson Strats shielded? Does anyone know?


Top
Profile
Fender Play Winter Sale 2020
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:43 am
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:31 am
Posts: 14045
Location: Province de Québec, Canada
Short research with Google show many forums saying EJ guitar are not shielded.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:45 am
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:57 pm
Posts: 1089
Location: Rossendale UK
The EJ Strat is essentially a mid 50s Strat with a couple of changes.
The control panel is shielded.
The controls are fitted to an aluminium plate, which shields the controls.
It's a small plate, as they were in the 50s

Image

Notice how tidy the cabling looks without needing to wire grounds on everything.

_________________
Chris :)

Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:58 am
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:31 am
Posts: 14045
Location: Province de Québec, Canada
stratmangler wrote:


Image

Notice how tidy the cabling looks without needing to wire grounds on everything.


Not really different as most US made Strat. Look more a picture for a ad.

This is not I understand it is shielded guitar as OP ask. What about the body ?


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:06 pm
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:57 pm
Posts: 1089
Location: Rossendale UK
stratele52 wrote:

Not really different as most US made Strat. Look more a picture for a ad.

This is not I understand it is shielded guitar as OP ask. What about the body ?


OP wrote
boruth wrote:
Out of curiosity, are Eric Johnson Strats shielded? Does anyone know?

Where is the bit about the body being shielded?

_________________
Chris :)

Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:21 pm
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:31 am
Posts: 14045
Location: Province de Québec, Canada
OP ask ; "....are Eric Johnson Strats shielded ? "

Shielded pickgard is not a shielded Strat, it is a ...shielded pickgard :lol:

Some Strat body have also black shield paint on all cavities .


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:14 pm
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:57 pm
Posts: 1089
Location: Rossendale UK
stratele52 wrote:
Some Strat body have also black shield paint on all cavities .

Let's be honest - very few Strat bodies have factory shielding.

_________________
Chris :)

Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:35 pm
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:48 am
Posts: 26415
Location: Tombstone Territory
If you open up ANY unmolested Fender Stratocaster made from 1954 until 1958 you will find that small control-cavity shield. Most stock MIA re-issues (and derivatives of same) will also be so equipped.

Arjay

_________________
"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:45 pm
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:31 am
Posts: 14045
Location: Province de Québec, Canada
stratmangler wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
Some Strat body have also black shield paint on all cavities .

Let's be honest - very few Strat bodies have factory shielding.


So you agree EJ Strat is not shielded.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:23 pm
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:57 pm
Posts: 1089
Location: Rossendale UK
stratele52 wrote:
So you agree EJ Strat is not shielded.

It has a lot better shielding than your contemporary Stratocaster.
Contemporary Strats have aluminium foil, and that has little mechanical integrity, and doesn't provide a decent ground reference.
You mentioned shielding paint, and very few Strats have that either.

You're missing one really important point, and that is having effective grounding is a better way of dealing with extraneous noise than the pathetic shielding attempts made by the Factories.
If your electrics don't have a decent ground you're screwed every way round, because you've nothing to dump RFI into.
And those 50s Strats and pre CBS 60s Strats had an aluminium grounding plate.
Leo was a radio engineer, and sorted the problems right out of the gate.

Nothing is going to stop a single coil pickup from picking up 50 or 60 cycle hum.

_________________
Chris :)

Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:38 pm
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:48 am
Posts: 26415
Location: Tombstone Territory
stratmangler wrote:
Leo was a radio engineer, and sorted the problems right out of the gate.

+1

Arjay

_________________
"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:53 am
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:31 am
Posts: 14045
Location: Province de Québec, Canada
Op ask if EJ Strat is shielded guitar.

This is a shielded guitar;

https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/setu ... d-a-guitar


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:02 am
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:48 am
Posts: 26415
Location: Tombstone Territory
stratele52 wrote:


No......it's a Faraday cage with a fretboard.

:lol:
Arjay

_________________
"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:39 am
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:57 pm
Posts: 1089
Location: Rossendale UK
:lol:
Retroverbial wrote:
stratele52 wrote:


No......it's a Faraday cage with a fretboard.

:lol:
Arjay

_________________
Chris :)

Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Shielding of American Models
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:05 am
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:57 am
Posts: 2237
Location: UK
Retroverbial wrote:
stratmangler wrote:
Leo was a radio engineer, and sorted the problems right out of the gate.

+1

Arjay


This is true but, back in the day, there was nothing like the level of radio we experience today. Almost everything is transmitting something now, but the change in available frequency bands and digital transmission greatly reduces this problem with guitars.

In the early 60's the small plate was extended to a complete pickguard shaped plate and I bet, if old enough, we have all had taxi transmissions through our gear; so it was a thing. I don't think it is as much of an issue now.

All this said, if it's good enough for EJ it should be good enough for most of us. Requirements do change with location but I'd be inclined to suck it and see. I would prefer the authenticity of the original but it isn't difficult to increase the shielding if you experience problems.

_________________
John

After all this time I should be better.


Top
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 7 hours

Fender Play Winter Sale 2020

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: