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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:36 pm
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Hello Squeedunk and all,

Possibly a home made creation
and thats the makers sig.

Seth Whitney?

I'm not totally sold on that decal.

Cheers.

+1 Somebody with some water slide decals!

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Looks like a DIY job...the neck couldnt been from Fender and it definitely looks like a waterslide decal.Another point i see is that the truss rod entry at the headstock doesnt even look like any from Fender or i could be wrong... :)

Lets make a comparison on the decals:

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Here's an original 70's headstock neck

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And this is from a YJM model....oppps a bit blurry

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belphedeus wrote:
the neck couldnt been from Fender and it definitely looks like a waterslide decal. Another point i see is that the truss rod entry at the headstock doesnt even look like any from Fender or i could be wrong


You are not wrong. That neck is a Chinese Fake. I've seen a couple.

It's not a Highway One neck because: it's only got 21 frets, no skunk stripe, the truss rod entry is wrong, wrong string trees too.

It's not a '70s reissue neck because there's no "bullet."

Could it be a '69 Custom Shop neck? No, there's no CS logo on the backside and it would have truss rod adjustment at the heel.

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Nuts. I’ve been trying to ward off this thread, but now I’m hooked.

My experience of chinoiserie is not extensive, thankfully, so if that is the view then so be it. But those look a lot like real Mini Grover Rotomatics: not the ultimate tuner, but don’t we normally see much cheaper fare on Sinofakes?

Suppose instead it is a DIY job. Then let’s source the parts. I can’t find that neck at any legit (or less so) aftermarket supplier – Mighty Mite, Warmoth, WD… and certain others. But I have seen that configuration of features before; in fact, I have lying around the cellar a mid-90s Squier neck that fits exactly (notably the rod hole and absent skunk stripe), sans the big headstock. Amongst the current stock I can only find this that matches right down to the CBS peghead, an Affinity Strat:

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Not an expert in Squiers, but I have a notion there were some others about four or five years ago that had exactly that design. Anyone got a 2002 to 2005 catalogue? Try amongst the Squier Standards…

So. Easy enough to mod such a guitar – and if yours you might want to… But now what we’re supposing is that somebody had enough aptitude to sand off the original decal, apply a new one and refinish, as well as swapping out the tuners and pickguard – but doesn’t know how to string the guitar properly. Weird.

More confusing: putting aside the mysterious signature, I can’t find the rest of that decal anywhere. All the counterfit logos I can find are subtly different, for instance in the exact shaping of the (typographically challenging) letters S and R in Stratocaster.

Ultimately, Squeedunk, we need you to interview the owner and discover that guitar’s past for us. And only then announce that you have no intention whatsoever of parting with $300 for a wrecked Squier…

And for those who ask, where’s the harm with fake decals?: here’s your answer.

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Ceri wrote:
I have lying around the cellar a mid-90s Squier neck that fits exactly (notably the rod hole and absent skunk stripe), sans the big headstock. Amongst the current stock I can only find this that matches right down to the CBS peghead, an Affinity Strat:

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Some of the Squiers don't have the skunk stripe? Well, then I suppose that could be a re-decaled Squier neck -- it sure does look like the pictured Affinity Strat.

The pics aren't good enough for me to tell what the tuners are.
Where are the Serial Numbers on Squiers?

I'm the only one saying "Chinese!" The Chinese usually do put on a phony serial number (in a too-large font) ...

Maybe the guy who strung it up wasn't the guy who "converted" it. :lol:

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orvilleowner wrote:
Some of the Squiers don't have the skunk stripe? Well, then I suppose that could be a re-decaled Squier neck.

The pics aren't good enough for me to tell what the tuners are.
Where are the Serial Numbers on Squiers? The Chinese usually do put on a phony serial number (in a too-large font) ...


I was talking to 66musicmaster the other day about a Squier belonging to a friend's son that I handled recently. It had the big headstock and I believe a similar rod hole to this one: I'm just wracking my brain over whether it had the trussrod fitted from the back or no.

The one I possess (don't ask why...) definitely has no skunk stripe, and I believe that was not so unusual in the 90s. Not sure of the country of origin. It is 200 miles from where I am this weekend so I can't immediately check - and I can't remember off-hand where the SN is. Did it even have one...?

Anyway, try these Rotomatics. Looking at the position of the fixing screw, isn't that what we see on the back of the headstock in question?

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guit ... ml#details

Over to you, Quincy.

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Just boosting this back to the top, in case there's someone who hasn't seen it and knows about it. On the off chance that we're all wrong and it is in fact a perfectly legit MIJ Sig model that none of us are familiar with...

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Ceri wrote:
On the off chance that we're all wrong and it is in fact a perfectly legit MIJ Sig model that none of us are familiar with ...


Currently, the MIJ Sigs are Yngwie, Jeff Beck, Richie Kotzen (a strat and a tele), and Gerry McGee (who?).

Oh, and then there are the "HST" tribute models to Dave Murray, Jimi Hendrix, and Ritchie Blackmore. None of these look like the Mystery "Strat."

On another note, the Fender Japan model numbers have changed format. In the past, model numbers were like ST54-75, which had the price encoded (75 = 75000 Yen retail price). They seem to have done away with the price codes (I guess because they change too often).

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What's wrong with this Picture? To many. I would not buy someone else's creation.


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Post subject: Re: Mystery Signature Strat - ID ?
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squeedunk wrote:
I am considering buying a signature strat, but I can't figure out the signature. Can someone help please ? Here's the link. http://s524.photobucket.com/albums/cc321/4squeedunk/
Ask seller for a S/N Fender can ID the guitar from that after looking at the pics and all the missing information the signature is un readable I saw no S/N or Made in....... and it is srung wrong that could be a hook to make you think seller dosen't Know what they have last email Fender and ask which sig models that have sychonized tremolo that might help you ID the signature remember if it sounds too good and when in doubt don't unless you like to gamble Good Luck!


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