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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:05 am
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Here are some pictures of a 75 stratocaster body. The dowels are clearly present. Look at the upper dowel, it is exactly near the connection between the woods (you can see the line of the connection) the dowel is above the line. Now look at the back, look closely for the line and you can see that the dowel is located much lower from the line, therefore it could not be 1 hole through the body, but 2 separate holes. Also with the lower dowel, the front one is near the bridge cavity, and the back one is much much lower then it.

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Yep, do you think it's something to do with gluing the pieces of wood together? :? that does not make much sense thinking about it though :?


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Thanks for those photos. (I have to figure out how to take closeups without all of the flash glare I get.) The one time I took some rough measurements of dowel positions (on my walnut colored '74), the front and back numbers didn't line up, but I attributed that to "operator error."

I've been interested in dowels for a while too, but I never found any definitive explanation/discussion. Like I said, they aren't mentioned in the books (that I've seen).

I first found the spots on my '74 and I thought they were filler (like plastic wood or bondo!) on flaws in the wood. But as the finish on my sunburst '75 faded, the similar looking spots became visible. I then threw out the "flaw filler" idea because of the consistent spacing. Then I discovered more similary spaced spots on all of my old guitars (by holding them just right to the light) and realized they must be dowels plugging holes because of the round shape.

I have a lefty and the little dowel on the headstock is clearly visible (without having to remove any tuners).

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fhopkins wrote:
Yep, do you think it's something to do with gluing the pieces of wood together? :? that does not make much sense thinking about it though :?


It probably has nothing to do with gluing the woods together at all. :D


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I know as always I post before thinking :oops:


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When I'll change strings next time, I'll check on my 66 and 57 about the dowel beneath the tuners. From what I remember, there is a hole there, a nail hole, that is not plugged at all. But you said something about a dowel, I'll have a look.


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Here's a pic of an old lefty headstock (a 1971) that shows the small dowel in between the D and G string tuners.

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Just like you said, they probably only dowel the hole on the lefties then since its on the front, I'll check again on my guitars but this is probably the case.


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would the hole on righthand necks be used for machinehead fitting?

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would the hole on righthand necks be used for machinehead fitting?


No, it was hole to orient the jig to route out the shape of the headstock (and maybe position the tuner holes?). I was once told (by the guy whose 1963 body is shown in the first post) about the headstock dowel:

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This leads me to believe that the lefty necks were roughed out on the same router as the right hand ones, just "upside down" if you get what I mean.

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Makes perfect sense.

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:59 pm
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Bump of an old interesting thread.

For those with any interest at all in vintage Fenders ...

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orvilleowner wrote:
Bump of an old interesting thread.

For those with any interest at all in vintage Fenders ...

And a very good "bump" too, thank you.

...BTW, care to reinstate the missing photos on this page, please? Anyone interested in vintage guitars is certainly going to be very interested to see those pics!

Cheers - C

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:23 am
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Ceri wrote:
BTW, care to reinstate the missing photos on this page, please? Anyone interested in vintage guitars is certainly going to be very interested to see those pics! Cheers - C


I reinstated some pics on the first page (I went through a switch of my photos upload site). I'll see if I can find those from this page (to upload and reinstate).

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:51 am
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Although my guitar may not be typical because of it not being a regular production guitar , in these pictures you can clearly see the holes that have been filled. I don't believe they used dowels. With a close inspection with a magnifing glass it appears to be only wood filler in the holes. That is not to say there couldn't be be a dowel and then some filler on top of it.
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