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Which one?
2008 new MIM strat sunburst, rosewood $400 50%  50%  [ 10 ]
2006 new MIM 50s reissue mim strat, orange, maple $525 45%  45%  [ 9 ]
2008 new sqiuer deluxe daphne blue maple or rosewood $245 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:42 pm
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Hey Randy,

I might have missed a post, but what one sounds the best when you play it?

I'd stay away from anything that you could describe as "warpy" unless you're getting an incredible deal on it.

Have you considered scratch and dent to save some money? I've heard some good stories about those gutiars.


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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:49 pm
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I live in Canada where we have the furnaces running quite a bit in the winter to warm the building when it is well below freezing in the winter.
Even with a humidifier the guitars in the music stores have their necks shrink due to the heating system in the building ( usually a gas furnace that really dries the humidity out of the air. All the guitars necks have the fret ends sharp and sticking out and the necks look like ski jumps.
I have an American 50th anniversary Strat that had the frets stick out because I had it in my computer room which is the hottest room in the house. Now I only have my guitars on the main floor if I am working on a song otherwise I store my guitars in the basement where the humidity is closer to normal. The Mexican Fender guitars are great value for the money. If you want a really fine long term investment an American Fender is a good choice. Fender doesn't make the less expensive guitars have sharp ends so you will spend more on the American ones.


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Mike,

It was only the pickguard. It looks like the pup adj screw might be too long and is pushing up the pg. It had a warp at the bridg maybe too. Like a wire or something was misplaced. I've pretty much decided that I really want a sunburst instead of the RI. The RI is more $$$ than I really want to spend. If it were a sunburst tho.....

As for sound, I thought they all sounded pretty good. both stores had the same Ibanez amp under a rack of Boss pedals. To be apples to apples, I used the blues distortion with them all. To my untrained "strat ear", they were very similar, except the used MIM had some pup poles dropping ut or something. The 3 I liked best were very similar. The MIM, the VM strat and the Deluxe Squier. THE Squiers both have the duncan-designed pups.

The other new ones all sounded fine. I fiddled with different tone settings and could live with any of them, at least for now. I figure a set of tex mex pups might be in my future if I ever get to where I can tell the difference. I am embarassed to admit all that, ya know... :oops: They all sounded great on the SRV stuff.

Randy


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Let me clarify the fret thing a bit. It's not that the end of the fret wire is sticking out of the neck on the Squiers, its more like they only filed them off at a 45 degree angle, rather than smooth the transition to the fretboard from the fret top.

It seems like a filing of the ends to a smoother angle would improve the playability by leaps and bounds. Kinda like the "rolled fretboard edges" that the Americans have.

The squiers are not the expensive guitars and the FEnders were much smoother. I compared them to see if it was rosewood thing. None of the maple FBS seem to have the issue either.

Randy


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66musicmaster wrote:
Let me clarify the fret thing a bit. It's not that the end of the fret wire is sticking out of the neck on the Squiers, its more like they only filed them off at a 45 degree angle, rather than smooth the transition to the fretboard from the fret top.


Actually, that really is just the difference between price points. Spend more cash and the company will spend more time on your fret ends. On the other hand, it is something that is easy to fix, usually just with a bit of polishing with the 0000 wire wool (as it sounds like you know).

On the wider point, fret ends protruding from the side of the fingerboard due to wood shrinkage is something that shouldn't afflict a higher end American Strat so much. These days the tang is usually nipped off for a few mil at the end and the gap that leaves filled with tiny fillets of wood. My 2005 Am Series is like that - another reason for price differentials.

Of course, the end of the crown of the fret can still emerge from the edge of the wood, but it is OK to address that with a light file, because when it moves back there is no gap created.

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I play SRV mostly, blues, brian setzer ... But the stuff I like isn't really in demand around here.

Well a nice bit of Brian Setzer is always in demand when I'm in the room! Saw the Cats way back when their first single was out in a very small, very sweaty club - knockout experience! Stick with it, man!

And get that sunburst. Pay what you must, sell whatever you need to. That is really what you are here to hear, ain't it?

Cheers - C


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Thanks for the information and the encouragement. It's the fret tops that I noticed on the Squiers and as you said, I would tend to believe it is a price point issue. Just the tops were not dressed as prettily as I am accustomed to on my well-worn beater.

And yeah, I'm pretty much of a mind at this pont to get a sunburst fender version. Looking on ebay for a hot deal - not that I'm finding that many. Some good deals. Really have to look at pics and decipher what it really is from the details. And considering the new one strongly.

Can I tell the wife that "Ceri said to"? :P

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Can I tell the wife that "Ceri said to"? :P


Oh, I'm always here to speak helpfully to members' wifes. I had a brief conversation with FHopkins's wife and next thing we heard he'd ordered himself a Gilmour Signature Strat!

Let me loose on your wives, gentlemen: I'm sure you'll be glad.

And now how relieved we all are that I live on a small island, far, far away...

:wink: - C


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I'd say that if you already have something to play and you are happy with it - keep playing it while you save up for the one you really want. If you settle for something else now you will be having the same conversation with the wife in a year or 2 when you get the itch again and you see the one you want at the store.


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Oh yeah, I'm pretty happy with my old stuff. Heck, my old strat copy has a nicer body than the standard MIMs. No laminates, just two pieces of wood put together nicely.

But, I'm 42 and don't really need or want anything for my upcoming b-day, so this is what I thought I'd ask for. n ow I just gotta decide exactly which one I want. Heck I'd be alright [maybe] with a Squier strat. As long as it says "fender" on it somewhere and is a sunburst. Pretty shallow, eh?

I should probably get an amp instead. But that can be Christmas....

Randy


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try them, and make the choice only by ear and playability, I'm sure that you can order your choice - whatever it might be - in a sunburst-version. Don't forget that it's better to wait a while untill you are certain that you made the wright decision rather than quickly picking one out just for the price or the looks! If you choose a genuine fender, it won't be a problem to sell it after a few years in case you woud like to purchase a more expensive one, e.a. an American or so. Anyway, I'm sure you wil have a lot of pleasure whatever you will choose (as long as you stay in the Fender family :wink: )


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