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Post subject: Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickups
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:07 pm
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I have a 2013 American Stratocaster Deluxe and I was thinking about replacing the pickups with the Vintage Noiseless Pickups. If I do this will I still be able to use the S1 switch? Also if it can be used is it a hard job to wire! Thanks


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Post subject: Re: Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickups
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:56 am
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I do some search with Google ; American Deluxe Strat use 3 wires pickups.
Vintage Noiseless have only two wires........ :(

It can't work IMO .

General wiring work ; you must know how to solder, It is not time to start learning on a guitar


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Post subject: Re: Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickups
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:16 am
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It looks like it would still work, you would just omit the green wire connections to the back of the tone pot, the signal ground connection would be made through the S1/Superswitch circuitry.

But the connections to the S1 board are rather delicate and someone with no experience soldering, or someone with a cheap soldering iron and "hardware store" solder would likely not be successful.

This is what you'd be dealing with, and the switch components on the bottom of that board are plastic.
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Post subject: Re: Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickups
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:51 pm
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It will work, but you need a ground, blackwire to the back of the pots.


Original circuit ;
https://p4.zdassets.com/hc/theme_assets ... A_SISD.pdf

You new wiring , wire the humbucker like the single coils ;

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Post subject: Re: Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickups
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:51 pm
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Vintage noiseless generally have a 500k vol pot and 1meg for the tone if it matters.....
The green wires connect to an additional ground plane so for your purpose can be omitted. :D


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Post subject: Re: Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickups
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:25 am
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jimmy_james wrote:
Vintage noiseless generally have a 500k vol pot and 1meg for the tone if it matters.....

I've not been able to find that on any of the service drawings.
I found one with a high value on the tone pots, but it had an active preamp.

I'm running Vintage Noiseless on my Tele with the stock Baja circuit and it sounds just fine, I just had to separate the neck cover from the ground lead and add a third wire due to the series/parallel switching on the Baja.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickups
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:00 am
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Here you go its only a guide though
https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/Orig ... -SMALL.pdf
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Post subject: Re: Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickups
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:29 pm
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I'm not a fan of the S1 system so my perspective might be a bit different.
If it was me, I would not hesitate to de-solder the leads to the jack and claw and remove the entire harness and pickups together and intact, place it/them in a ziplock bag and store in a dry place for posterity or for restoration back to stock configuration should I ever want to sell the guitar.
Then I would rewire the guitar with a new harness and new pups and never have to worry about that system again.
Hell, I'd probably leave it all attached to the stock guard and get a nicer guard too.
That would make the job a whole bunch simpler.
Restoration would be a snap as well.

My two cents.
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Post subject: Re: Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickups
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:41 pm
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Interesting that I don't see any production models with the same circuit.
I'm sure they're out there, especially since Fender doesn't have all of the newer diagrams posted.
I'm curious if the Treble bleed isn't part of the reason for the 500k volume pot.
The 1m tone pots will simply cause the treble to roll off more slowly.

The 2001+ Jeff Beck uses 250k for all 3: https://p4.zdassets.com/hc/theme_assets ... A_SISD.pdf
The 2000 American Deluxe uses 1m for all 3: https://p4.zdassets.com/hc/theme_assets ... B_SISD.pdf
But the 2004+ American Deluxe uses 250k for all 3: https://p4.zdassets.com/hc/theme_assets ... A_SISD.pdf

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