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Post subject: 57/62 Pickup Pole heights issue
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:15 pm
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I put these pickups in my MIM stratocaster. They have staggered pole heights. The G pole is particularly high it seems. I tried to set the pickup height to recommended depth, but I can't seem to get away from the warble on the G string.

Do I have no other choice but to keep lowering the pickups until the warble cleans up?


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Post subject: Re: 57/62 Pickup Pole heights issue
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:42 pm
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Lower them until there's no warble. They will have an overall better sound when lowered. I lowered my Fat 50's until almost flush on the low E side and they sound much better.


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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:21 am
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Lower them until there's no warble. They will have an overall better sound when lowered. I lowered my Fat 50's until almost flush on the low E side and they sound much better.



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Post subject: Re: 57/62 Pickup Pole heights issue
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:57 am
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The best opinion says get them almost flush with the pickguard.
Please don't attempt to push the poles down as the 57/62s are vintage construction not with a plastic bobbin and damage to the coil could result.


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Post subject: Re: 57/62 Pickup Pole heights issue
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:14 am
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64Galaxie wrote:
The best opinion says get them almost flush with the pickguard.
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Pole pieces flush to the pickgard :lol:

Pole piece height are from the strings


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Post subject: Re: 57/62 Pickup Pole heights issue
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:13 am
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I think what is being suggested is to lower the pickups such as the plastic cover is almost flush with pickguard, not the top of the pole pieces...is that correct?


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Post subject: Re: 57/62 Pickup Pole heights issue
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:58 am
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bill0287 wrote:
I think what is being suggested is to lower the pickups such as the plastic cover is almost flush with pickguard, not the top of the pole pieces...is that correct?
Yes, that's how I understand it, and I also find that gives a better sound. OK, you might lose a bit of volume, but that's what amps are for!

Incidentally, once again I risk abuse and worse(!) from my fellow posters, but if you don't mind taking a small risk, you could CAREFULLY press the G (and D perhaps) pole pieces down a bit (flush). I've just adjusted a set of Fat 50's in this way without problems (not to mention numerous other vintage-style Fender p/ups). Just don't touch either of the E's as the wire is wound directly round them.

Obviously, it's up to you - I take no responsibility if it all goes wrong! - but I'm not alone in doing this. And if I was to ruin them, I'll just buy some more - they're not Faberge eggs, are they?! Never had to do it so far, though...

If the suggested height adjustment doesn't have the desired effect - and I'd definitely do that first - it's something you might consider.

Cheers - Peter.


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Post subject: Re: 57/62 Pickup Pole heights issue
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:20 am
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Peter S wrote:
Incidentally, once again I risk abuse and worse(!)

Disagreeing with you on the pole piece pushing method isn't abuse
Neither is reminding that the pickup wire is very delicate, and that the wire may be in contact with the non-E pole pieces, waxed, taped, tight etc. (Been there, broke that.)

Other than that, and as far as I'm concerned, anyone is free to do whatever they want with their own pickups.

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not to mention numerous other vintage-style Fender p/ups

"Numerous", really? Even any of the pros I know don't do the pole piece pushing in "numerous" amounts.


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Post subject: Re: 57/62 Pickup Pole heights issue
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:06 pm
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bill0287 wrote:
I think what is being suggested is to lower the pickups such as the plastic cover is almost flush with pickguard, not the top of the pole pieces...is that correct?


It is a case by case, mines are close to 1/8" over pickgard.


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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:27 pm
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bill0287 wrote:
I think what is being suggested is to lower the pickups such as the plastic cover is almost flush with pickguard, not the top of the pole pieces...is that correct?
This is correct. A Little higher on the treble side works well. I'm a cautious sort of fellow and won't attempt to monkey around with individual poles. They are not designed to move. Others have done it with no problem, but be prepared to replace your pups just in case of a disaster. :? Your ears are the final judge on how low or high to set the pups.


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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:30 pm
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LawFlow wrote:
bill0287 wrote:
I think what is being suggested is to lower the pickups such as the plastic cover is almost flush with pickguard, not the top of the pole pieces...is that correct?
This is correct. A Little higher on the treble side works well. I'm a cautious sort of fellow and won't attempt to monkey around with individual poles. They are not designed to move. Others have done it with now problem, but be prepared to replace your pups just in case of a disaster. :?


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",,,, won't attempt to monkey around with individual poles. They are not designed to move....."


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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:37 pm
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LawFlow wrote:
bill0287 wrote:
I think what is being suggested is to lower the pickups such as the plastic cover is almost flush with pickguard, not the top of the pole pieces...is that correct?
This is correct. A Little higher on the treble side works well. I'm a cautious sort of fellow and won't attempt to monkey around with individual poles. They are not designed to move. Others have done it with now problem, but be prepared to replace your pups just in case of a disaster. :?


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",,,, won't attempt to monkey around with individual poles. They are not designed to move....."


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Post subject: Re: 57/62 Pickup Pole heights issue
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:16 pm
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"Numerous", really? Even any of the pros I know don't do the pole piece pushing in "numerous" amounts.
I only said I risked abuse etc, based on previous. Disagreeing is clearly fine. However, your quote does make me out a liar. Not really necessary, JM. 'Numerous' is open to interpretation. Three p/ups to a set; even half a dozen sets would be numerous to some, even if not to you. And I've certainly 'adjusted' more than that - several sets of '69's, TS's, Fat 50's, off the top of my head.

I clearly pointed out that it wasn't recommended. Fact remains I've done it; lots of people do it. Entirely up to OP whether he wants to try it. Wish I'd never mentioned it now!

Cheers - Peter.


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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:52 pm
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stratele52 wrote:
won't attempt to monkey around with individual poles. They are not designed to move
I've moved pole pieces before.
It wasn't a problem.
They're just a press fit.
I did it on a set of Fat 50s and it really helped the string to string balance.
I used a small 1/4" drive socket (3/16", maybe?) and a water-pump plier to lower the G string pole about 1/16".
Big difference.
Good difference.
It takes a steady hand and good pressure control to move it just a little instead of too much.

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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:34 pm
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stratele52 wrote:
won't attempt to monkey around with individual poles. They are not designed to move
I've moved pole pieces before.
It wasn't a problem.
They're just a press fit.
I did it on a set of Fat 50s and it really helped the string to string balance.
I used a small 1/4" drive socket (3/16", maybe?) and a water-pump plier to lower the G string pole about 1/16".
Big difference.
Good difference.
It takes a steady hand and good pressure control to move it just a little instead of too much.
I'm sure this is done quite a bit with no problem. I've been tempted, but the string balance is just OK with me. Maybe if I heard it differently, I would be amazed. I'm one of those one guitar guys and can't afford the risk of trashing my one and only.


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