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Post subject: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:16 am
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Hey, I'm currently trying to replace my bridge block on my American Pro Strat, but in the process I've discovered that my bridge plate is actually for a Mexican Standard guitar.

Is this common practice to use some Mexican parts on American Strats, or do I need to contact the seller to find out what's going on here?

I bought this guitar completely new a few years ago, so there shouldn't have been any modifications to it.

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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:07 pm
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Your guitar may have been assembled in the USA but Fender sources the parts globally.

Welcome to the new world order.

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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:27 pm
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Yes it is possible.
At one time all American Standard/Deluxe Strats had hardware specific to their series.
Then they moved away from block saddles on the 2-point trems and went to bent steel saddles.
That meant the intonation screw was no longer down one leg of the saddle but was down the center.
It is entirely possible and actually probable they just grabbed parts from the MIM bin rather than design new saddles to fit the spacing on the MIA 2-point bridge plate.

Always best to measure everything before buying anything and know the measurements of what you're buying before you pay.

We've all been in your shoes once or twice. I have a shoe-box full of hardware that doesn't fit.

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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:22 am
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BMW-KTM wrote:
Yes it is possible.....

We've all been in your shoes once or twice. I have a shoe-box full of hardware that doesn't fit.


Ditto.

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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:45 am
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American Pro bridge is 2 point, Mexican Standard is 6 screw narrow fixing.
The only body a Mexican Standard bridge will fit without redrilling is the Mexican Standard.
Unless the guitar is a USA Professional which afaik had the American Special bridge
We need pictures.


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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:35 am
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The American Professional should have an American bridge (approx $60 more as a replacement part). It can be identified as the rear upstand angle runs the full width of the bridge at the rear. The cheaper bridge used on lesser guitars, the upstand stops after the high E saddle so doesn't continue along past the trem arm hole.

I had this link when building "Fish Face" which I have found invaluable:-

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/gbridge_genuinefenderstrattrem.htm

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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:24 am
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Thanks for the replies everyone.

I don't know whether to be reassured or dismayed by the fact that this is common.

I have some pics for what it's worth:

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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:29 am
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This is frustrating as I am trying to upgrade my block to a Callaham. This is the second block they have sent me, as I ordered the wrong one at first. They said I needed the American Pro (same as Deluxe I believe) after I told them my guitars exact model name. Speaking of which, this model of guitar can be found at the link below, with specs included:

It is called a Fender FSR USA Pro Stratocaster HSS in Olympic White

https://www.andertons.co.uk/guitar-dept ... hfYOGnWxYU

The way I discovered my bridge plate was Mexican Standard was that the Callaham supplier sent me a template for their blocks to see which one my bridge plate would match up with.


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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:41 am
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The trouble with FSR's is they can be just about anything. I have an FSR which I bought new from Thomann who commissioned the run. The guitar is SSS while the Serial Number search describes it as HSS.

I am not saying that Andertons misrepresented the guitar but if you look at pictures of the American Professional on the Fender web site the two bridges are clearly different.

Noting that yours is called an American Pro, not an American Professional, I am wondering if this is just something that Andertions came up with to differentiate the guitars which they had specified. It could be it was prior to when the American Professional was released by Fender so the confusion wouldn't have arisen at the time.

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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:56 am
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The USA Pro was a different model to the current American Professional. More like an American Special. It was generally available through most retail outlets. The bridge could be either the one fitted to the Classic Series or the American Special.
Two questions - does a magnet stick to the existing block and is it stamped PW-36?


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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:03 am
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Worth noting I didn't get the guitar from Andertons, I got it from Dawson's.

Thanks for the info though, I appreciate it. I may get in touch with them if I feel it's necessary.

I was considering a complete bridge replacement, and getting all the Callaham parts for an American Pro (I mean everything, the bridge plate, saddles, springs etc etc. Problem is, I don't know if the guitar as a whole is incompatible with that sort of bridge, in which case I'd just be sinking even more money into something that won't work.

I'm asking the supplier if this is possible but I figured I should ask here for good measure too.

Would I be better off simply getting the Mexican Standard Callaham block? That is an option, and according to the templates I was sent it will fit. Probably the safest and cheapest option I suppose.

Also, I don't think I've mentioned it but the reason for upgrading: I snapped my whammy bar :roll:

Quick, slightly related question I'd like to ask rather than make a whole new thread: I had to take my bridge apart to compare the bridge plate to the Callaham templates, and in the process I mixed up the springs for my saddles. They are all different, and I don't know if they are supposed to go in a specific order or not.

Thanks again for the help, I appreciate it.


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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:05 am
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64Galaxie wrote:
Two questions - does a magnet stick to the existing block and is it stamped PW-36?

Yes to both of those questions


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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:24 am
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mikeu wrote:
64Galaxie wrote:
Two questions - does a magnet stick to the existing block and is it stamped PW-36?

Yes to both of those questions


That is the same as my HW1 so will have the narrower string spacing. It is already steel so no point in replacing it.

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:26 am
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John Sims wrote:
mikeu wrote:
64Galaxie wrote:
Two questions - does a magnet stick to the existing block and is it stamped PW-36?

Yes to both of those questions


That is the same as my HW1 so will have the narrower string spacing. It is already steel so no point in replacing it.

Well, aside from the fact that the remnants of my whammy bar are stuck inside my current block haha

I should have mentioned that in my initial post


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Post subject: Re: Mexican Standard parts on American Pro Strat
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:58 am
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mikeu wrote:

Quick, slightly related question I'd like to ask rather than make a whole new thread: I had to take my bridge apart to compare the bridge plate to the Callaham templates, and in the process I mixed up the springs for my saddles. They are all different, and I don't know if they are supposed to go in a specific order or not.

Thanks again for the help, I appreciate it.


Look at how saddles are normally set for intonation.

Low E will be farthest back -- it gets the shortest spring. The A string gets the next shortest spring.

High E will be furthest forward -- it gets the longest spring. The B string gets the next longest.

G is typically slightly forward of D, but so close any spring length will be ok. (Really the only critical ones are the two E's -- a long one on the low E might not let you set it far enough back for proper intonation, and a short one on the high E might be so loose it buzzes or rattles.)


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