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Post subject: question about frets and the original series
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:50 pm
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hi
i have 3 questions

1) my first question
i have played several stratocaster american standard (made in the '90 years ) , do they use medium jumbo frets like the mexican american standard or the new player medium jumbo ?
i know there are several sizes but i have played several '90 standard mia and the frets are lower then the professional serie (the new american standard with the jumbo frets)

2) my question is related re-issues and original series
do they have the same component quality (bridge , saddle ,tuners and so on ) ? and the color sunburst is made in the same way with nitro?

3)my last question about the original '50 has the truss rod nut in the headstock , but in that year the stratocaster had the truss rod on the neck close the neck bridge , why?

thanks a lot
sorry for my poor english ,i did my best


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Post subject: Re: question about frets and the original series
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:28 am
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1- Fret ; I dont know, they look medium jumbo fret on picture, but Fender write;

Vintage-tall frets make it easier to bend notes without fretting out.

2- At the price Fender sell this guitar I'm sure component are very good quality

3- Truss rod adjustment is at body side close to neck pickups. Not at the headstock where you see just a nut plug.
Where do read truss rod adjustment is at the headstock ?
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Read here; everything about this guitar ; watch out about the neck ; big and chunky !

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I think there's a lot to be said for the approach Fender took with the new American Original Series. By taking their favorite bits from several vintage 1950s era Stratocasters and combining them, you get the best that each has to offer. The resulting guitar will be loved by many, but not by everyone. In particular, players with smaller sized hands may be disappointed by the chunky, vintage-correct neck profile, but those who want something substantial to grab ahold of will feel right at home with it. Thickness and profile choices aside, most players will appreciate Fender's decision to go with a slightly flatter fingerboard radius, as well as the use of slightly taller frets - both of which make for noticeable improvements in playability - especially when it comes to string bends.
This guitar will hold a lot of appeal for anyone who loves the unmistakable sound of a vintage Strat. The tone is straight-ahead, classic Stratocaster in all of its spanky, glassy, quacky goodness. Since the pickups all have the same winding and magnetic polarity, there's some noise there too, but that's to be expected with a vintage-style Strat. The inclusion of the five-way pickup selector and the bridge tone control (in place of the vintage three-way switch and middle pickup tone control) provide more tonal flexibility than if Fender had stuck with the traditional vintage wiring, but at the same time, the great sounding Pure Vintage '59 pickups with their fiber bobbins and the cloth covered wiring used throughout the guitar will make purists happy.
You may not be able to travel back in time to the 1950s and play a bunch of new Strats to find your personal favorite, but Fender's latest offering is the next best thing to being able to do that. It's got the classic visual appeal, it's well built, and sounds great. They've picked the best bits for you and put it all together in one very impressive vintage-inspired guitar. -HC-


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Post subject: Re: question about frets and the original series
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:00 am
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Hi
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1- Fret ; I dont know, they look medium jumbo fret on picture, but Fender write;

Vintage-tall frets make it easier to bend notes without fretting out

i had on my hands some amarican standard , they had lower fret then medium jumbo

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2- At the price Fender sell this guitar I'm sure component are very good quality

hi
here are around 2000€ , but about the color , do they use the same nitro color skill like the re-issue?
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3- Truss rod adjustment is at body side close to neck pickups. Not at the headstock where you see just a nut plug.
Where do read truss rod adjustment is at the headstock ?

from the fender official site
fender stratocaster professional (the new standard)
Image

the original '50
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on the official site there is

Body Finish
Gloss Nitrocellulose Lacquer , is the same technique/skill of the re-issue?
thanks


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Post subject: Re: question about frets and the original series
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:37 am
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drugus wrote:


the original '50
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It is plug not truss rod adjustment nut


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Post subject: Re: question about frets and the original series
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:37 am
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As far as I can make out the "Original 50's" is pretty much an American Vintage Reissue (or what ever it was called) but with the wrong frets and fretboard radius.

There is little point in comparing the frets on a 90's guitar unless it is unplayed. Fender frets wear so they get re-levelled and re-crowned and may not be as tall as they were originally.

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Post subject: Re: question about frets and the original series
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:15 am
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John Sims wrote:
As far as I can make out the "Original 50's" is pretty much an American Vintage Reissue (or what ever it was called) but with the wrong frets and fretboard radius.

There is little point in comparing the frets on a 90's guitar unless it is unplayed. Fender frets wear so they get re-levelled and re-crowned and may not be as tall as they were originally.


Hi John , have you tried the mim standard and the new player series ? have noticed the frets
i remember some old american stratocaster did use these frets
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Post subject: Re: question about frets and the original series
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:38 am
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drugus wrote:
John Sims wrote:
As far as I can make out the "Original 50's" is pretty much an American Vintage Reissue (or what ever it was called) but with the wrong frets and fretboard radius.

There is little point in comparing the frets on a 90's guitar unless it is unplayed. Fender frets wear so they get re-levelled and re-crowned and may not be as tall as they were originally.


Hi John , have you tried the mim standard and the new player series ? have noticed the frets
i remember some old american stratocaster did use these frets
thanks


So many different guitars, so many frets. I just get on with what ever I have in my hand at the time. Tall, short, fat, thin - if they are level, have a crown and allow sufficient clearance then job is a good'n.

I have far more issues regarding the finish of frets and how well dressed they are over shape. I guess these days I prefer taller, fatter frets but that wasn't always the case and doesn't really bother me if they aren't.

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Post subject: Re: question about frets and the original series
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:10 pm
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Let's get the statistics out... :lol:
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Fender old and new fret wire sizes
Old:
"VINTAGE" (smallest fret) (width) .078" x (height) .043" (2 x 1,1mm) - Dunlop 6230
"VINTAGE JUMBO" (wide and flat) .102 x .042" (2,6 x 1,1mm) - 6150
"MODERN" (narrow and tall) .090 x .055" (2,3 x 1,4mm) - 6105
"JUMBO" (largest fret) .110 x .055" (2,8 x 1,4mm) - 6100
"MEDIUM JUMBO" (wide and flat) .106 x .036" (2,7 x 0.9mm) - 6130
New:
"VINTAGE" (smallest fret) .083 x .045" (2,11 x 1,1mm) Pre-radius 7.25", Fender part number 0992014000
"STANDARD" (but despite the difference to the old, FMIC calls this fret wire “Medium Jumbo, too) .103 x .046" (2,6 x 1,2 mm); 0991998000
"JUMBO" .090 x .055" (2,3 x 1,4mm); 0991999000
”NARROW/TALL” .095"x.047" (2,4 x 1,2 mm); 0991999000


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Post subject: Re: question about frets and the original series
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:15 pm
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Keep in mind those fret heights are the raw fretwire, before leveling and re-crowning.

Over the years and on various models, I've seen brand new Fender frets that lost significant height due to leveling. And crowning varies from nicely rounded to almost flat.

I haven't been systematic enough in my observations to say if that was year-related, model-related, or just random human workmanship.

But the exact same raw fretwire can feel a lot different when they file it and crown it differently.


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