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Post subject: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:27 am
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There is a Year 2008 strat listed on Craigslist (https://richmond.craigslist.org/msg/d/2 ... 25597.html) that the seller is describing as a FSR Mahogany-bodied Strat. However, the headstock is not black and a stringtree is present. From what I have seen of FSR Mahogany-bodied Strats from that year 2004 - 2012 era, is that all had a black headstock and no stringtree. Does anyone recall if there were in fact variations in the headstock configuration on these guitars in that era?


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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:41 am
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That serial number returns as "2004-2010 American Deluxe"

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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:01 am
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Looks legit.

Only the neck has been replaced.


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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:18 am
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CB91710 wrote:
That serial number returns as "2004-2010 American Deluxe"


Yes, not a surprise. These guitars have Deluxe appointments, but for marketing reasons, were not titled as Deluxes. See quote from Fender Customer Support below for more details about that.

The question remains however, if this particular FSR has mahogany for its body wood.

"COMMENTS: Special run for GC. Originally introduced as an Anniversary model with SCN pickups. When the price point of the American Deluxe guitars went up, GC wanted to keep this guitar in their lineup at the same price point. This was achieved by replacing the pickguard assembly with an American Series loaded with Tex-Mex pickups. The guitar caught on well and was kept on as a proprietary FSR for them and Musician�s Friend."

(Ref: http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?d ... ber=667428)


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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:26 am
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chromeface wrote:
Looks legit.

Only the neck has been replaced.


Yes, i've been suspiscious that that was what was going on here.

Still hoping someone familiar with this product line can confirm definitively one way or the other if FSR Mahogany-bodied Strats from that era were ever produced with headstock variations.


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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:34 am
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chromeface wrote:
Looks legit.

Only the neck has been replaced.


Another interesting aspect is that , the replacement neck seems legit Fender product based on the logo and serial number format (vs Warmoth, Mitey Mite etc. aftermarket), and serial number on it is appropriate for the time-period of the guitar.


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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:38 am
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floyds_chili wrote:
chromeface wrote:
Looks legit.

Only the neck has been replaced.


Another interesting aspect is that , the replacement neck seems legit Fender product vs aftermarket, and serial number on it is appropriate for the time-period of the guitar.


THough that could also be evidence that that neck is original to the guitar, meaning the guitar is either A) some kind of all-original Fender strat, but just not a mahogany-bodied one, or B) Fender did actually make mahogany FSRs then with non-black headstock?1?


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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:15 am
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I'd read the database result as "this neck did not originally belong to this guitar"; my understanding is that the database would have known a 2008 FSR as it is.

I'd suggest contacting Fender Consumer Relations via the support pages email, or quicker via the chat there during US business hours. They usually can provide the full original specs for a certain (post-1993 and MIA) serial, so the partscaster possibility would get clarification.


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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:58 am
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jmattis wrote:
I'd read the database result as "this neck did not originally belong to this guitar"; my understanding is that the database would have known a 2008 FSR as it is.

I'd suggest contacting Fender Consumer Relations via the support pages email, or quicker via the chat there during US business hours. They usually can provide the full original specs for a certain (post-1993 and MIA) serial, so the partscaster possibility would get clarification.


Thanks. I did just do that. I could not get an answer about whether any of the FSR mahogany-bodied strats from that era had variations in headstock design, but was able to confirm that that serial number does not match to any FSR mahogany-bodied strat. So that guitar is either not mahogany-bodied , or it is but with a replacement neck from a Deluxe.


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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:16 pm
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It is very difficult to tell what the timber is under that lacquer. There are perhaps some mahogany characteristics but I couldn't say 100% based on the pictures.

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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:42 pm
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The seller writes "any interest or questions feel free to message me", so the easy way to confirm the mahogany would be to ask for a pic from the neck pocket.

Once more with the serial & registration database; that brings a pic of an AmDeluxe with a 2-tone (could also be Tobacco or such) sunburst body. Again, in my experience, the info on these years (2004-2010), US-made guitars is very reliable, including the pic a search brings.

So I'm leaning towards the FSR body/Deluxe neck combination guitar, in other words a quality partscaster. The seller might enlighten if there are any mods with the electronics etc.


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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:51 pm
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This model started out as FSR then became the select series.
There were various versions ... sss (std nut) and hss.(lsr)
All the ones I have seen that are not modified have the black headstock so I agree the neck is probably a swap.
Ironically the vendor adds the roller nut in the description yet it is absent on the guitar.
There actually appears to be an lsr in a packet in some of the pics but it was never on that neck! :D


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Post subject: Re: Help: authenticating a Year 2008 strat as FSR Mahogany
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:08 pm
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jmattis wrote:
Once more with the serial & registration database; that brings a pic of an AmDeluxe with a 2-tone (could also be Tobacco or such) sunburst body.
I didn't even think about the pic... thinking it was a generic image.
But DZ8016786 shows a more silver body with abalone, DZ8016787 and DZ8016784 are white or silver, DZ8016788 is more orange with Tortoise....

So, ya... I'd say that neck did not come on that guitar. It may or may not be a Mahogany FSR body, but it does seem to be somewhat misrepresented.

Also, note the case candy includes a package for an LSR roller nut, but the neck on that guitar has never had an LSR installed on it. It's listed as "2008 American Special HSS....."
2008 would have still been the Highway One (and again, the serial number doesn't match up for an H1)

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