I like both and both work fine.

Vintage trem is more eye candy and to me looks better but the 2 point trem seems to work better IMO. Plus it just pops out nice and easy when you want it to.

So, what do YOU think ?

I have one of each and the vintage stays in tune no matter how much I abuse the bar. The modern goes out of wack just looking at it. Of course I do not think its the trems fault, it is the damn nuts fault.

Assuming the nut is not a problem, I should have said.

I love the pop in trem arm. I am thinking about getting a vintage callaham with the pop in to put in my '65 custom shop just for the pop in trem.

My two point trem works fine, and stays right in tune, but I have been told that is only because I'm lucky.

I have a Deluxe Player's Strat (MIM) and it is equipped with vintage tuning keys (slotholes on the top, instead of on the side) and so the bridge block is pretty short. Meaning the bullet or ball end doesn't go into it, it just lodges itself pretty tight in the hole. So the strings are held in place that way through the bridge. And so, I can go crazy with the wham bar, and it'll only slightly go out of tune on certain strings. I think that if you have a shorter bridge block, your strings will lodge itself in more tightly and it won't go out of tune when you use any type of fulcrum tremolo.

I have the 6-hole vintage and think it's the best. I don't know what Fender was thinking when they came out with the two-point tremolo, there was nothing wrong with the vintage to start with.

I guess they figured on making more money if they could convince people that the two-point modern was better. It was invented to boost sales, nothing more.

Same thing happened when those crappy string saver saddles came out.

"Nothing more," huh? The two-point bridge could not have possibly been designed for any other reason, is that it? It couldn't be that itmight be easier to manufacture or perhaps easier to adjust, or that it is less likely to bind, right? Invented to boost sales and nothing more. Gotcha.

Please explain how the change in bridge design would "boost sales."

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hi-fi-guy, there's no luck involved. If the nut is cut right, a Strat trem stays in tune. If the nut isn't cut right, it doesn't. Most factory nuts (Fender included) can be improved. Kind of like the wiper blades on your new car.

As for me, I would use only the Fender 6 screws vintage trem. I will not consider 2 point trem or even Floyd Rose.

Floyd Roses are great, but they're a pain in the arse when you change strings. But if I could, I'd rather have a Floyd Rose installed on all my Strats.

i love my 2-point tremolo!But i ve no problems with the 6hole vintage one!

It's been said... if the nut is set up right, and the saddles are set up right, you should have minimal issues. I own a 6 screw and a Fender Floyd, no problems with either. (A little carefully placed graphite on the nut helps the string "slip" better, but do NOT get it on the finish!)

"Nothing more," huh? The two-point bridge could not have possibly been designed for any other reason, is that it? It couldn't be that itmight be easier to manufacture or perhaps easier to adjust, or that it is less likely to bind, right? Invented to boost sales and nothing more. Gotcha.

Please explain how the change in bridge design would "boost sales."

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Oh, you again??? What are you, the "Forum Firestarter"??? Ok, I'll play along.

First of all, your absolutely right. The 2-point probably is easier to manufacture, hehe, now what does that mean, yep, more money for Fender, while at the same time their giving people what they want, which is a newly designed bridge. My point is not that the 2-point is a bad bridge, it's just that there was nothing wrong with the 6-hole to begin with, it was a very good design that served its purpose. So why does Fender come out with something different? Just to keep up with the times (sales boost), people love new things and are sometimes fully convinced that something made in the 50's must need improvement of some sort.

The real question is: If the 2-hole is better and easier to make, why didn't ole' Leo and his entourage come up with this idea from the start??? We know for a fact that they came up with and junked a bunch of tremolo designs before settling on the 6-hole, maybe the 2-point was one of them and they didn't like it, so years and years later Fender takes one of those older designs and reworks it into something that they can use for a new design. The 6-hole was designed to work like a fulcrum, a knife-edge so to speak, with the bridge having a knife-edge on all six screws. Now, I don't know about everybody else, but I would rather have my tremolo tilting on six screws instead of two studs, regardless of the fact that the 2-point also works. This might be all just opinion, but I'm entitled to mine.

Easier to adjust??? Well now, that's a good one, just think what's gonna happen when that design hits the streets, uh huh, a boost in sales, and the bridge does exactly what Fender says it'll do, cause you know, nobody wants a lawsuit. Fender markets the 2-point to draw everybody in that seems to have the idea that the 6-hole has problems that should be fixed. The thing is, it really has no problems, it works fine, it does its job. What else could you possibly want? If for some reason people want something different, I suggest having a Floyd installed.

Binding??? You must mean the strings binding on the saddles when the tremolo is used, causing it to go out of tune, am I right? LOL, if so, I think you answered your own question bud.

Gravity_Jim:
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there's no luck involved. If the nut is cut right, a Strat trem stays in tune. If the nut isn't cut right, it doesn't. Most factory nuts (Fender included) can be improved. Kind of like the wiper blades on your new car.
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"Gotcha"???................oh please, grow up alittle.

My Classic Player '60s Strat has a two-point tremolo bridge and it stays in tune great. I only use the tremolo lightly. I don't do divebombs or anything.

ha in case ya all didnt know an important fact aboult the 2 point is the posts for the fulcrum!!!!they are huge which translates to more resination to the body.ps. i 'm not going to argue like a some kind of a wanna be scientist like some!!!!! i will simply tell you how it is from my life experience with fender ........1 the 6 point is fine and dandy you tighten it right to the body if you want 2 points are not there for a money maker there just more functional for more agresive wammy action!!!!!! so with that i have concluded 6points are vintage and wonderfull for the day.
the 2 point on my my other too strats.is for heavey dutey dives ect.I HAVE NEVER HAD PROBS. WITH TUNEING!!!!!! altho i will say i did have probs. abusing the 6 point. ok ! now lets get into the string saddles the day a vintage bridge saddle can compeate with stainless that are powder coated with more stainless on top of the saddle on my 2 points which means more sustain off course ill eat my guitar colection!!!!!! i dont make up storys theirs no need i own all the above mentioned bridge styles