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Post subject: High E too far in the fretboard?
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:07 pm
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I have a ‘96 Malmsteen Strat; with the two point trem. I replaced the bridge with a conversion to one with vintage saddles. Fits the body route perfectly. Studs are spaced 2 7/32. String/saddle-slot spacing is 2 1/16. All to specs. The low E rides up the board where it should and passes initially over the coils’ low E poles as it should. But the high E is far in the board. The neck is plumb/straight with no pocket space to pull the neck over to correct for this, so that’s not a factor (as it was for another Strat of mine).

So I can’t figure out what’s going on. If the saddle slot spacing was too narrow it would explain things but the slot spacing/E-E spacing at the bridge is 2 1/16 on the stock block saddles and the conversion vintage saddles as well. So all good.

And it’s not that the whole bridge is ill fit, offset to the low E end, because if that were the case the low E would be off the board and off the poles. It seems the low E is perfect and the next five strings get progressively more shifted to the low E side, being the worst at the high E.

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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:50 pm
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Did you have this same issue with the original bridge? Isn’t the original 2-7/32 string spacing? The narower string spaced bridge is not centered, it seems. you should be able to shift the saddles towards the high E side.

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Post subject: Re: High E too far in the fretboard?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:07 am
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JakTors wrote:
The neck is plumb/straight with no pocket space to pull the neck over to correct for this, so that’s not a factor (as it was for another Strat of mine).


Any ideas?


Did you try to move the neck or just look at ?

Loosen the neck screw and pull it straight.

Most of the time it is the neck wich is not straight with the body


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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:49 am
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shimmilou wrote:
Did you have this same issue with the original bridge? Isn’t the original 2-7/32 string spacing? The narower string spaced bridge is not centered, it seems. you should be able to shift the saddles towards the high E side.
I honestly don’t recall. It’s been a few years. As much as it is off it’s unnoticeable when I play it so I might’ve not ever noticed. No, the string spacing is 2 1/16 on the stock 2 point so the only replacement two point bridge with vintage saddles is also 2 1/16. But it sure looks like 2 7/32 spacing would work perfectly. Unfortunately I haven’t found a 2 point with vintage spacing. And yea, I tried shifting the saddles but they’re tight and unshiftable.


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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:54 am
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stratele52 wrote:
JakTors wrote:
The neck is plumb/straight with no pocket space to pull the neck over to correct for this, so that’s not a factor (as it was for another Strat of mine).


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Did you try to move the neck or just look at ?

Loosen the neck screw and pull it straight.

Most of the time it is the neck wich is not straight with the body

Yeah I took the neck off and cleaned the pocket. Put it back on and saw the margins were a tight fit and no slack when pulling on it. Plus the low Evwasnt shifted which I assume would be if it were the neck. But I agree it’s usually the neck. Had the same issue with another strat and a little yank fixed it. I’ll loosen the screws and pull and see if it moves even though it’s tight looking with no assymetry in the margins.


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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:30 am
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Post subject: Re: High E too far in the fretboard?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:55 pm
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I tap IMG, then it gives me two IMG in brackets with a cursor in the middle. I assume that means paste the url there. So I did. I don’t see the pic. But here’s the url pasted separately.

https://flic.kr/p/JasYCp


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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:20 pm
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Post subject: Re: High E too far in the fretboard?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:35 pm
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That doesnt look like a Malmsteen Strat. They have 6 screw bridges, 2-7/32 string spacing, 11 hole pick guard....

Not sure what it was, but it seems to have been molested into something else. I’m not even sure they came in that color. :?:

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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:24 pm
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Definitely looks like the neck is torqued too far to the left.

Yep... 8-hole solid white pickguard, that's not a Malmsteem, should be 11-hole WBW
https://reverb.com/item/7126435-1996-fe ... -malmsteen

But apparently the first two US generations didn't have the bullet. Japan did. Also the early models did indeed have the 2-screw bridge, with the small pre-CBS headstock.
http://pickroar.com/187/how-to-identify ... tocasters/
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index ... e.1595916/

Apparently, the string spacing issue is common with these?

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Post subject: Re: High E too far in the fretboard?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:18 pm
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Good to know CB, thanks. So a 96 could have had a 2 point bridge. Yes, I would definitely try moving the neck toward the treble side. :idea:

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Post subject: Re: High E too far in the fretboard?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:04 pm
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shimmilou wrote:
That doesnt look like a Malmsteen Strat. They have 6 screw bridges, 2-7/32 string spacing, 11 hole pick guard....

Not sure what it was, but it seems to have been molested into something else. I’m not even sure they came in that color. :?:

Lol. It’s a real one. Bought it new in ‘96. From ‘88-‘98 (roughly) they were two pivot block saddle bridges. 2 1/16 string spacing (and coincidentally only, 2 7/32 spaced studs for the two posts). They only started having 2 7/32/6 screw vintage bridges after ‘98 or so. Scratch guard screws number was different early on too; small headstock, 7.25” radius, early Strat style, etc. That was a common color early on too.


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Post subject: Re: High E too far in the fretboard?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:11 pm
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Well, I tried but the pocket is tight. Neck doesn’t shift.


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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:12 am
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JakTors wrote:
Image

I tap IMG, then it gives me two IMG in brackets with a cursor in the middle. I assume that means paste the url there. So I did. I don’t see the pic. But here’s the url pasted separately.

https://flic.kr/p/JasYCp


ImageSans titre by tors100, sur Flickr


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Post subject: Re: High E too far in the fretboard?
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:19 am
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stratele52 wrote:
JakTors wrote:
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I tap IMG, then it gives me two IMG in brackets with a cursor in the middle. I assume that means paste the url there. So I did. I don’t see the pic. But here’s the url pasted separately.

https://flic.kr/p/JasYCp


ImageSans titre by tors100, sur Flickr

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