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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:32 pm
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Since there is no such guitar as a “56 reissue”, can’t say anything about the neck. :|

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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:44 pm
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Stratiki wrote:
Is the neck shape the same as a 56 reissue? I know it has a 9 1/2 radius. I’m interested in the shape.
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All necks are different, pretty much have to get it in your hands but I’ll describe my experiences.

My American Original ‘50s feels much thicker than the ‘56 I checked out, and mine also has a softer V.

Here are a couple of pics, don’t know if you can tell anything about the neck but just know that it’s pretty dog on thick, and not much V.

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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:40 pm
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Good picture .. looks thicker than my necks ..

Anyone trying to formulate a dirty joke .. is one ..

I gave my current Strat necks (2) a quick measure at the 1st fret ..

.. both are Fender Strat - 9.5" radius - "soft V" back shapes:

Thickness from top of 1st fret to back & Width of fretboard

J Vaughan (Mex) - 0.936 t & 1.657 w

E Clapton (USA) - 0.912 t & 1.688 w

Which surprised me, the Clapton felt fuller.

Here's a quick pic .. Clapton on the left and lighter.

(sorry about the honking big pic .. I'm new to flickr)


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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:23 pm
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Here’s a resizing, and side by side.

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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:43 pm
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Blue Notes wrote:
Here’s a resizing, and side by side.

Good job .. yours still *looks* thicker ..

and the headstock doesn't seem to be offset as much ..

That's got to be the angle of the photo .. right?

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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:13 am
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You’re right, the offset isn’t as much, and the headstock is thinner.


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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:31 pm
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Congrats on that beauty! I have always liked a maple fingerboard on Aztec gold. The grain on that neck is great. You got a good piece from the looks of it.
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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:10 pm
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Wow... That Clapton neck could knock one out of the part at Wrigley Field!

I like a "solid" neck with a nice "V".

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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:15 pm
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The 'veterans' here know of my preference for v-necks. For purposes of discussion, among my herd there are a 60th Anniversary '54, an '08 Deluxe VG Strat and an '88 Clapton. They decrease in 'chunkieness' in that order. They increase in taper in that order as well. The '08 is what I have referenced for years as Fender's Generic V-neck. You'll find the same neck on guitars such as the Vaughn, the Guy. I have to say that of the three necks, which I revisited the other day when I 'watered' my guitars, I'm still married to the Clapton.

The other day Miami Mike messaged me about having auditioned this new 50's model and wondered if the neck was the same as that I had been lauding all these years because it felt really good in his hand. I'm going to have to audition this guitar for my impressions, and get back to you on that. I did remind him that the first generation of the Road Worn 50's had a neck nearly as sleek as the Clapton which, IMHO, is the best damn neck Fender builds. The original necks on the '57's were reported to be 'hard V-necks'. According to Chromeface, the Clapton neck is supposed to be patterned after Eric's Martin acoustic and not dictated by a Fender model though we all know that his 'Blackie' was a mongrel cobbled together from several Strats he bought on the cheap here in the States and I've never played the 'Brownie' Fender built so I can't comment on that either. Hence, I can't speculate on where the designers of this new 50's concept went back to for a neck shape. Any of you who are familiar with the master neck pattern board that hangs in the factory in Corona know what the possibilites are.

The guy in this discussion whose impression of neck shapes hold water is certainly Danagos. I'd be interested in knowing what he thinks of this new guitar if he can find the time to get out and play one. Of course, at the end of the day, it's what works for you.

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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:20 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
The 'veterans' here know of my preference for v-necks. For purposes of discussion, among my herd there are a 60th Anniversary '54, an '08 Deluxe VG Strat and an '88 Clapton. They decrease in 'chunkieness' in that order. They increase in taper in that order as well. The '08 is what I have referenced for years as Fender's Generic V-neck. You'll find the same neck on guitars such as the Vaughn, the Guy. About 6-7 years ago Fender produced a '56. There is a Custom Shop model for that year. The neck is called a '10/56'. That was quite a chunky neck as well. Heavier than the '54. I have to say that of the three necks, which I revisited the other day when I 'watered' my guitars, I'm still married to the Clapton.

The other day Miami Mike messaged me about having auditioned this new 50's model and wondered if the neck was the same as that I had been lauding all these years because it felt really good in his hand. I'm going to have to audition this guitar for my impressions, and get back to you on that. I did remind him that the first generation of the Road Worn 50's had a neck nearly as sleek as the Clapton which, IMHO, is the best damn neck Fender builds. The original necks on the '57's were reported to be 'hard V-necks'. According to Chromeface, the Clapton neck is supposed to be patterned after Eric's Martin acoustic and not dictated by a Fender model though we all know that his 'Blackie' was a mongrel cobbled together from several Strats he bought on the cheap here in the States and I've never played the 'Brownie' Fender built so I can't comment on that either. Hence, I can't speculate on where the designers of this new 50's concept went back to for a neck shape. Any of you who are familiar with the master neck pattern board that hangs in the factory in Corona know what the possibilites are.

The guy in this discussion whose impression of neck shapes hold water is certainly Danagos. I'd be interested in knowing what he thinks of this new guitar if he can find the time to get out and play one. Of course, at the end of the day, it's what works for you.

Doc :wink:

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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:48 pm
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Did a little measuring, this is the best I could do, hope it’s useful.

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These measurements are from my actual Fender American Original ‘50s Stratocaster.

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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:52 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
The 'veterans' here know of my preference for v-necks. For purposes of discussion, among my herd there are a 60th Anniversary '54, an '08 Deluxe VG Strat and an '88 Clapton. They decrease in 'chunkieness' in that order. They increase in taper in that order as well.

The guy in this discussion whose impression of neck shapes hold water is certainly Danagos. I'd be interested in knowing what he thinks of this new guitar if he can find the time to get out and play one. Of course, at the end of the day, it's what works for you.

Doc :wink:

HA .. Doc you've forgotten more than I ever learned and that's not much

I'd like to get my hands on one of those 50's models. Let you know if I do.

Like Doc, the Clapton is my favorite Strat neck .. comfortable all the way up to the dusty end

The Jimmie Vaughan is almost as nice .. as you can see in my post above, slightly thicker at the 1st & thinner F-board 21 frets (Mex) ..

same as a Buddy Guy Doc? Also MIM.

I had an '04 (i think) American Deluxe it was noticeably thicker .. not what I'd term a "bat" .. but substantial enough to Kabong

I've never measured or owned an AVRI but playing a '57 (i think) a few times left the impression of delicate strength and ease of playability.

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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:13 pm
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Blue Notes wrote:
Did a little measuring, this is the best I could do, hope it’s useful.

Wow .. professional imaging .. nice.

So that 50's neck measures thicker than & as wide as a Clapton ..

It looks like it does and I think it requires hands on testing .. by Me. : )

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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:25 pm
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Yo Dan!! I have to correct myself regarding my 'neck notes'. The '54 is said to have a carve which was to be come known as the 'D' neck. We need to bear in mind that the original alphabaet neck designations A,B,C,D had nothing to do with profile. They were letters assigned to width at the nut. It appears that the said designations morphed into descriptions of profiles. ]If you go into the Custom Shop website, and download their design guide, you find a host of patterns with specification measurements and cross section diagrams.] So going forward, we've the 10/56, ;57, generic soft v, and Clapton. I've owned the Buddy Guy, own the Deluxe Strat, and played the '56 and the Vaughn. The 10/56, which I originally thought was the generic soft V is chunkier. So its for me to get out and audition the Original '50's and see if I can find another V neck guitar to compare it with.

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Post subject: Re: NGD Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:48 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
Yo Dan!! I have to correct myself regarding my 'neck notes'. The '54 is said to have a carve which was to be come known as the 'D' neck. We need to bear in mind that the original alphabaet neck designations A,B,C,D had nothing to do with profile. They were letters assigned to width at the nut. It appears that the said designations morphed into descriptions of profiles. ]If you go into the Custom Shop website, and download their design guide, you find a host of patterns with specification measurements and cross section diagrams.] So going forward, we've the 10/56, ;57, generic soft v, and Clapton. I've owned the Buddy Guy, own the Deluxe Strat, and played the '56 and the Vaughn. The 10/56, which I originally thought was the generic soft V is chunkier. So its for me to get out and audition the Original '50's and see if I can find another V neck guitar to compare it with.

I think you need another V neck guitar Doc!

Our goal is clear .. we gotta Man Handle the new 50 's V neck and Report back.

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