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Post subject: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:22 pm
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Just have some doubts about this being real or fake. It does have different pickups than the original so keep that in mind.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg5MDA=/ ... u/$_59.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg5MDA=/ ... q/$_59.jpg

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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:12 pm
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Absolutely fake. The relic-ing is atrocious.

Dead giveaway is the truss rod opening. Fender never uses bare wood there. Either a walnut plug, a walnut open cylinder, or a black plastic tube.

Road worn should also have a heel-adjust truss rod, not head-adjust.

Body edge radius is wrong.

Etc etc etc


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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:53 am
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MrNach0 wrote:
Just have some doubts about this being real or fake...


You do !!??!! Really!!??!! On which planet would that ever be considered legitimate?

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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:08 pm
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MrNach0 wrote:
Just have some doubts about this being real or fake. It does have different pickups than the original so keep that in mind.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg5MDA=/ ... u/$_59.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg5MDA=/ ... q/$_59.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg5MDA=/ ... 1/$_59.jpg


Wow even I can see its a fake
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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:22 am
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I'm bringing back this thread; not to discuss the particular guitar the thread was created for...but to discuss "Road Worn" guitars in general.
I saw in another thread (Best Strat you ever owned-only one!) someone mentioned a 'Road Worn' guitar as being their best...and I got to thinking about it. Didn't wanna hijack THAT thread, so I found this one.

Why? Why do road worn (purposely faked...reliced...damaged) guitars appeal to people? I'm not knocking them, mind you, I just don't see the appeal.
I (personally) like to buy my guitars looking as new as possible...and if I buy a brand new guitar...I want it to look brand new; and any wear & tear on them will be from me.
Why would I spend more (some cases a LOT more) for a guitar that LOOKS like I've had it, and played it forever?

I remember in the early 2000's when I first came along gear sites and magazines like American Musical Supply or Musicians Friend, and I came across a 100% relic of Stevie Ray Vaughn's "Lenny"...and one of those sites/magazines mentioned above was TRYING to sell them for $27,000.00 It wasn't Lenny, it was a guitar that LOOKED like Lenny!
Man, I just don't get it.


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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:21 am
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I think I would be hard pressed not to buy another Road Worn....a proper Fender Road Worn, not some vandalised pseudo relic.

Why? Many reasons:-

a) I can't afford a real vintage guitar but they fascinate me. I can only afford a recreation and I think a vintage recreation/replica etc should look like it is as old as the design.

b) The necks on Road Worns (proper Fender ones) are to die for. They are beyond smooth and silky and make almost everything else feel antiseptic, bland, rough and uncomfortable.

c) Having a battered guitar gives you freedom. You just play it, you don't worry about it getting knocked or have the depression that the first (and second, and third, and....) knock or ding on your shiny one brings.

d) Proper Road Worns have Nitro lacquer bodies. I like Nitro lacquer. It may, or may not, make a difference to sound but the guitar feels much more tactile than that nasty hard resin plastic poly coating that they otherwise have.

e) Road Worns have character

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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:43 am
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I'm not knocking those who appreciate road worn or relic'd guitars but they are not for me. Although I do see some merit in John Sims' observation:
"c) Having a battered guitar gives you freedom. You just play it, you don't worry about it getting knocked or have the depression that the first (and second, and third, and....) knock or ding on your shiny one brings."

Still, I would not buy one.


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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:28 pm
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John Sims wrote:
c) Having a battered guitar gives you freedom. You just play it, you don't worry about it getting knocked or have the depression that the first (and second, and third, and....) knock or ding on your shiny one brings.
This. It's like a new car that you spend 6 months babying it and afraid to do anything with it, then that first door-ding, and you're like "OK, it's not new anymore"... Not that you then begin to *abuse* it, but you are no longer worried about every paint chip or door ding or rock that hits the glass on the highway.
You still care about it, but it's not shiny new anymore.

Same for a guitar, maybe even to a greater degree. They get bumped, they fall off of their stands, you miss the output jack, screwdrivers slip.
Pre-worn... and I don't mean "heavy relic" jobs like Lenny, but something that comes new with some "character" makes it hurt less when the inevitable happens.

Personally? It's not for me. I buy them new, or like-new used, and try to take care of them, but most all of mine are what the Custom Shop would call "Closet Classics". Haven't had a true gig in many, many years. Just jamming with friends and a garage party here and there.

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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:27 am
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I'm not into fake wear myself. I want a new guitar to look new.

Having said that, I could buy a reliced guitar if it was a copy of a famous model, Fender Custom shop sold copies on Eric Claptons "Blackie", that is something that would interest me.


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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:36 am
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John Sims wrote:
I think I would be hard pressed not to buy another Road Worn....a proper Fender Road Worn, not some vandalised pseudo relic.

Why? Many reasons:-

a) I can't afford a real vintage guitar but they fascinate me. I can only afford a recreation and I think a vintage recreation/replica etc should look like it is as old as the design.

b) The necks on Road Worns (proper Fender ones) are to die for. They are beyond smooth and silky and make almost everything else feel antiseptic, bland, rough and uncomfortable.

c) Having a battered guitar gives you freedom. You just play it, you don't worry about it getting knocked or have the depression that the first (and second, and third, and....) knock or ding on your shiny one brings.

d) Proper Road Worns have Nitro lacquer bodies. I like Nitro lacquer. It may, or may not, make a difference to sound but the guitar feels much more tactile than that nasty hard resin plastic poly coating that they otherwise have.

e) Road Worns have character


I agree,

Road worn guitars are like pair of jeans, many sold today are "worn" . And they are more confortable
I could say , today all new jeans are worn.

I remember back in '60 all new pair of jeans can stand up by it self, they are like piece of cardboard until we washer them 10 (?) times


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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:47 am
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I agree w/ John, but would say the initial relic on the fret board was a bit over done IMO but they have since scaled that back to a more modest level.


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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:55 am
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sfceric64 wrote:
I agree w/ John, but would say the initial relic on the fret board was a bit over done IMO but they have since scaled that back to a more modest level.


This relic is ugly I will not buying it.


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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:18 am
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sfceric64 wrote:
I agree w/ John, but would say the initial relic on the fret board was a bit over done IMO but they have since scaled that back to a more modest level.


The guitar in the photos isn't a Fender Road Worn, it is a fake, so not really indicative of what Fender do.

However, with regard to creating a "good" relic, as you note, there is a skill to creating a look which gives the impression of being real. So many just seem to use the term "relic" as an excuse to vandalise a perfectly good guitar. A guitar which looks like it has come from the period intended, with marks appropriate to its age, is a work of art.

A bashed about guitar with no consideration as to how those marks may have come about is nothing other than vandalism.

The Custom Shop Artist recreations go as far as having templates which show the exact position and nature of damage on the original guitar they are copying so as to get as close as possible to being a replica of the real thing. Now that is properly geeky, but then if you are paying big money for a copy you want it as near to the real thing as you can get.

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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:23 am
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That looks absolutely terrible.


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Post subject: Re: Authentic Roadworn Fender
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:47 pm
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sfceric64 wrote:
... with regard to creating a "good" relic, there is a skill to creating a look which gives the impression of being real ...

Ummm, yeah. This is not that ... LOL

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