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Post subject: e to e spacing and graphtech nuts
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:04 pm
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I searched the forum and did not find this addressed.

What is the string spacing e to e, at the nut for MIA, MIM and import?

Graphtech lists only 35.05mm arched/flat (model 5000-00), 34.59mm flat model 5010-00, and a 35.25mm flat model 5042-00. These are the basic models and come in XL and Black Tusq with slightly different model prefix letters.

I take it the 35.25mm would be for contemporary American spacing, e to e. However it only comes in a flat bottom model.

The 35.05 mm, I guess, would correspond to Mexican and some import spacing, however, I have several PQL 5000-00's with manufacturer packaging marked 35.18 mm, e to e, and not 35.05mm as their website quotes. They are too wide e to e for the Mexican necks in my experience.

I am guessing that the 34.59 is suitable for narrower import models.

Their packaging leaves a lot to be desired. its very difficult to make out the cryptic dimension labeling.

They have a good product but the information on website and packaging needs improvement.

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Post subject: Re: e to e spacing and graphtech nuts
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:32 pm
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What is the string spacing e to e, at the nut for MIA, MIM and import?
It doesn't work like that.
The string spacing is not dependent on the country of origin.
It is dependent on which model/specs.

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Post subject: Re: e to e spacing and graphtech nuts
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:37 am
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It doesn't work like that.
The string spacing is not dependent on the country of origin.
It is dependent on which model/specs.


Well yes and no. But I am thinking the standard series. the American Standard and Deluxe had a wider spacing than the Mexican standard and most of the other Mexicans models. Yes the classics version Americans have narrower than Contemporary Americans etc. And the artist series etc have their own.

To be more specific, what is the e to e spacing, at the nut, for American Standard, the Mexican Standard. Fender lists "nut width" for the standard (now professional) as 42.8 mm and MIM Standard as 42 mm "nut width". The mystery for me is the actual string spacing numbers. I have had little luck finding these dimensions across the web or on this site.

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Post subject: Re: e to e spacing and graphtech nuts
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:12 am
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There will be multiple spacings from each country of origin.
You didn't say "Standard vs Standard" in your original post.

I'm fairly certain that nut string spacing on modern AS/AD guitars is 1.375". (1-3/8")
I'm pretty sure I once saw numbers indicating 1.390" but I also seem to recall it was disputed.
This is from memory only; I have no data in front of me.

I could speculate on vintage specs but speculation is likely not what you're after.
I have zero knowledge on Mexican instruments when it comes to this issue.

I agree with you it is a bit odd that full nut widths are known openly but actual spacing is some kind of secret.

The opposite is true at the other end.
String spacing is well documented but the different pieces of hardware that provide those spacings are not all the same overall size and those dimensions are something of a secret.
I have posted elsewhere in these pages how my AD bridge has the same string spacing as my MIK Strat but the bridge plates are not the same dimensions yet those numbers are never found on a spec sheet.

Good luck with your search.
That's all I can do for you.

I suppose one always has the option of simply taking a vernier calliper and a pen and notepad to a music store and doing some measuring.
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Post subject: Re: e to e spacing and graphtech nuts
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:19 pm
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I was a bit ambiguous in the first post. This quest is rooted in trying to identify the correct Graph tech replacement nut for a 2005 MIM Stratocaster. Actually I don't think even Graph tech knows.

Yes bridge dimensions/spacing are much discussed but string spacing at the nut is a mystery. Maybe Warmoth or Stewert Mac has an answer.

Yes I intend to buy a set of metric calipers. Find this out if I have to.

I do know the MIA spacing is wider, and for me, more comfortable than MIM.

Thanks for your input.

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Post subject: Re: e to e spacing and graphtech nuts
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:46 am
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On those nuts you mentioned, the 5000 is for a 9.5" radius, the 5042 for 12" - and GT has nuts for 7.25", too.
I don't know how experienced you are, so don't take the following as suspicion against your skill level, but for a beginner, it's easier to fit a nut by sanding the bottom than by working on the slot depths - plus, one doesn't need nut slot tools. In my experience, graphtech answers email questions quite well, so with precise model info and specs, they might help choosing the best (= requiring the least amount of fitting) nut.
If you have the experience, get a nut blank - that way, it's easy to copy the existing string spacing (without the need to measure...), or change it if needed.
Otherwise, you should be able to get your existing nut's string spacing with just an ordinary ruler - but (IMHO), if you're going to do several nut jobs & other guitar work, you do need a caliper; a digital one with both cm's and inches is only about 20 monetary units.

And as general advice: There are no drop-in nut replacements. A first nut job seldom succeeds, so it's wise to get extra nuts/blanks. And, if one only wants one new nut, the price of using a pro usually stays lower than the price of materials and tools needed for DIY, and a pro does it all a lot quicker.


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