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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:52 pm
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Here’s what is said:

Seymour Duncan Nazgul
- High output of bass, mid, highs with articulation of bass
- Ceramic same as the Sentinent.

Seymour Duncan Pegasus
- Moderate output with Alnico 5
- Prominent mid, focused lows, and sparkly highs, but responsive and lush warm tones
- Clean or distorted and cuts through in a band and suitable for studio flexibility.

But, you likely know all this. Sorry, I can’t be of better help here, Perhaps, someone will chime in.

You might give a shout to Seymour. They have lots of hands on with those pups and various axes.

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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:28 am
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Fender Strat Brat wrote:
Here’s what is said:

Seymour Duncan Nazgul
- High output of bass, mid, highs with articulation of bass
- Ceramic same as the Sentinent.

Seymour Duncan Pegasus
- Moderate output with Alnico 5
- Prominent mid, focused lows, and sparkly highs, but responsive and lush warm tones
- Clean or distorted and cuts through in a band and suitable for studio flexibility.

But, you likely know all this. Sorry, I can’t be of better help here, Perhaps, someone will chime in.

You might give a shout to Seymour. They have lots of hands on with those pups and various axes.

Cheers!
FSB


FYI Seymour may be a little slow in answering and getting product out, I received this letter the other day from them:


Dear Friends,

As a result of the mudslides in Montecito, the highway south of Santa Barbara will be completely closed for the next several days causing disruptions in transportation and communication with many of our staff. We ask for your patience if you experience any delays in communication with anyone in our office or customer service. Please also note that order deliveries could be delayed due to the disruptions in transportation.

We are doing everything we can to keep systems running and to support our staff. We sincerely appreciate your understanding and patience during this difficult time.

Our hearts go out to everyone who has been affected by this devastation and sincere gratitude to the people who are working hard to clean up the debris and rescue the people in our community.

Very best,
Sales & Customer Service
Seymour Duncan



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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:11 pm
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I ran across some similar notices from that area too, mud. My sincere thoughts go out to those affected.

Not having fair warning or much needed calculated monitoring and/or observations before made this event all the worse. Forest fires and terrain can be an indicator of possible slides (but, not always), and, as long as we all ignore it or don’t keep up with changing geology, we put ourselves at risk. Some of the most beautiful places in the world come with less than desirable attachments.

Humans are a strange lot. All too often we hear, “But, it never happen here before.” One doesn’t have to look far to see construction on swamp land, fault lines, beneath a volcano, in a tornado or hurricane zone, in a flood zone, a potential fire or a possible slide area. I once lived on a fault line where in the adjacent municipality the ground has the possibility of liquefying and joining with the ocean. I know some are unaware, and some don’t care about that place they call home. It’s never happened before, :roll:
It’s never easy to face a much needed move. I’ll be interested in finding out if experts and authorities got this right or wrong prior to the slide/flood. For now I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Still, beautiful Luxe Montecito is a tragedy. I hope the worse is over. Big thumbs up to the first responders and volunteers.

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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:16 pm
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Thanks for replying guys :)
Well I know the specs but I'm no expert on them, so I've only went on what I've read on Seymour Duncan's webpage and Youtube clips of how they sound.

I'm pretty sure people pair up either the Nazgul with the Sentient or the Pegasus with the Sentient.
I like how the Pegasus feels a bit more flexible and with warm clean tones, but I also want the heavy sound of the Nazgul so that's why it's hard for me to pick one.

Maybe I should just start with the Nazgul Sentient pack and go from there, if I like it I'll keep it and if I don't I could just save up for a Pegasus and try it out.


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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:28 pm
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Sounds like a plan, Robin.

It’s a lot easier to add some dirt than to come up with clean. IMHO. What you use for amplification and pedals (or not) will definitely give you some differences as will the room acoustics such as the videos presented.

Remember, while guitarists are extra conscious of the pup presentation, the audience, for the most part is not.

I think you’ll do fine with either combination accordingly.

Let us know how you make out.

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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:47 pm
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Yeah you are absolutely right :)
With my current set up, I can play Black Metal with my Squier Vintage Modified Jazzmaster with its stock pickups.

I have a Pearly Gates Plus or whatever it's called.. in the bridge position of my Strat and I do tell the difference though, so that's why I wanted to try out a pure Metal pickup.
But I also don't want it to remove all the tone and rich sound of the melody parts I want to play so yeah.. I can't decide at the moment hehe.

But thanks for the support and opinion on this matter :)
I will try to post more stuff her once I get there :)
Another update for today is that I will NOT get a black Strat for this as I couldn't get one. They are sold out at Fender and the next shipment isn't until March or May and then with Pau Ferro fretboards.
So I actually ordered a Surf Green Affinity so let's see how that turns out :P


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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:39 pm
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Surf green - very nice. Nothing wrong with that. :D

The overall result should make for a pretty skookum axe, Robin. I hope you get lots of enjoyment from it all.

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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:44 am
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I may already be lost in what is supposed to go into what here... :wink:
But a couple of comments anyway:

The Affinity solves one problem I was thinking is possible; it's HSH routed so the Nazgul bridge &Pegasus/Sentiel neck combos don't need routing. (Some Bullets are HSS.)
The tuning machines switch from Squier stock ones to Gotoh vintages means you probably need conversion bushings, plus the screw holes need attention.

And the middle pickup - any "single coil of some sort" might sound weak with those high output bridge&neck humbuckers. At least, don't choose a vintage output one - and if you really want a roughie metal monster, maybe consider a single coil sized humbucker.

And the wiring possibilities - I won't even go there yet, since they are endless.


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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:19 am
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(Some Bullets are HSS.)

I can attest to the 2009 Bullet. Mine came with SSS configuration, but it was routed for HSS, so I dropped a 2006 loaded HSS pickgaurd out of a Hwy. 1 Strat in it (Greasebucket); and the only modification I had to do to the cavity was file/shave/sand out some more space to accommodate the much larger bottom tone pot.

As far as the face of the guitar; of course I had to fill the screw holes, and drill new ones going from Asian to American (screw) layout of the pickgaurd.


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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:28 am
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All good points, JMattis. Especially trying to match output with a single coil between those humbuckers. Not impossible, but difficult at best. Even the stock axes with HSH are common to this condition. Still, there are plenty out there being used in one form or another.

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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:04 pm
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Hehe no nothing wrong with a Surf Green, I think they are awesome looking :)

Hey guys, I wanna say thank you for your support and help here :)
I didn't thought the Affinity had different routing but if it solves the problem then it's all good :)
Since this has the 70's headstock I'd probably not change into the Gotoh vintage style ones, but rather save those for a neck with smaller headstock. Thanks for the info though!
And thanks for your opinion/input on the pickup combination, it has just been a thought of mine I wanted to try out.
I'm use to the HSS style so I wanted to try something different. Worst case I'll just go with the neck and bridge :)


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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:10 pm
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Your thanks is appreciated, Robin. A lot of this is subjective and personal with a lot of variables that come with the territory. That said, if it doesn’t work out at first, you can take pride in knowing no animals were injured or killed in this whole production. :P
Best of luck with the project.

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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:47 am
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Haha yeah I guess you're right there, but some poor tree's got to put their life on the line for it... :P


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Post subject: Re: Building A Red Strat
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:47 am
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Wabin22 wrote:
Haha yeah I guess you're right there, but some poor tree's got to put their life on the line for it... :P
:lol:
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