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Post subject: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:12 pm
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I have been playing guitar off and on since the 1960's (Yes, That makes me older than dirt) and I have always wondered why with all of the great people who have designed and made Stratocasters why have they not figured out that if you wire the bridge and neck pickups to the same tone control and the middle pickup to it's own tone control you would be able to adjust the tone for all 3 pickups? I mean with the way 5 way switch is set up you can't use the bridge and neck pickups at the same time. So it only makes sense, well to me it does.

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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:45 pm
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That's why you need a Telecaster. You can use the bridge and neck pick up at the same time.


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:04 pm
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I have owned a few Tele's over the years. I don't care for them.

If you re-read my post you will see it is about tone control on 3 pickups. Not about being able to use bridge and neck pickups together.

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:35 pm
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I've never found the need for a tone control wired to the middle pickup......

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:42 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
I've never found the need for a tone control wired to the middle pickup......

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There are times that being able to control the tone on bridge/middle or middle/neck have been nice.

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:10 pm
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If you r-read my response you'll see I don't care about the tone control on pick number 3 Why ?? Because reality is you only have two tone controls and three pickups...if it's such a big deal to you then install a third tone control on your own...you do have a drill and a soldering iron don't you ??


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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:30 pm
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If you r-read my response you'll see I don't care about the tone control on pick number 3 Why ?? Because reality is you only have two tone controls and three pickups...if it's such a big deal to you then install a third tone control on your own...you do have a drill and a soldering iron don't you ??


So, If you had no interest in this subject why did you respond?

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:40 pm
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djwayne wrote:
If you r-read my response you'll see I don't care about the tone control on pick number 3 Why ?? Because reality is you only have two tone controls and three pickups...if it's such a big deal to you then install a third tone control on your own...you do have a drill and a soldering iron don't you ??

Wow! Not only did you answer the OP with a knee-jerk response, you get annoyed when he takes offense. As the OP asked, "why respond at all?"!


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:53 pm
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It's an easy mod to connect any pickup to any tone pot. You could connect all three pickups to a master tone control if you wanted. Just solder a wire from the lug on the five way switch that is connected to the second tone control to the lug next to it and then that control will work on the middle and bridge pickups.


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:06 am
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CAFeathers wrote:
I have always wondered why with all of the great people who have designed and made Stratocasters why have they not figured out that if you wire the bridge and neck pickups to the same tone control and the middle pickup to it's own tone control you would be able to adjust the tone for all 3 pickups?

The wise people of Fenderland took a different approach; on many Strats (AmStd etc.) the T2 controls both middle and bridge pickups. That's also the simplest wiring mod to do if it ain't there to begin with; takes just a small jumper wire added to the switch.

Another solution is to wire a Strat to MasterVol/MasterTone/BlenderPotForBridgePup. Tone control on every pup, plus the option of bridge+neck, or all pups at once.

Edit: Sorry, DougMen, for repeating the jumper wire solution you just gave.


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:10 am
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Everyone is looking right over my actual question to ponder. The actual question is Why has not Fender thought of wiring Stratocasters so that you have tone control on all 3 pickups.

Yes, It is an easy mod. I have done it many times. One wire, two solder joints. Bridge and Neck pickups on one tome control. Middle pickup has it's own tone control.

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:29 am
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CAFeathers wrote:
Bridge and Neck pickups on one tome control.


That certainly would not work for me. I usually roll the neck pickup's tone control all the way back and leave it there -- with heavy OD and compression that scenario produces some pretty nice "woman tones" a la Clapton during his Cream era. But I wouldn't want to simultaneously emasculate my bridge pickup's "bite".

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:44 am
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CAFeathers wrote:
Everyone is looking right over my actual question to ponder. The actual question is Why has not Fender thought of wiring Stratocasters so that you have tone control on all 3 pickups.

Yes, It is an easy mod. I have done it many times. One wire, two solder joints. Bridge and Neck pickups on one tome control. Middle pickup has it's own tone control.


There are already several Strats that have tone control on all 3 pups. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:59 am
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CAFeathers wrote:
Everyone is looking right over my actual question to ponder. The actual question is Why has not Fender thought of wiring Stratocasters so that you have tone control on all 3 pickups.

Yes, It is an easy mod. I have done it many times. One wire, two solder joints. Bridge and Neck pickups on one tome control. Middle pickup has it's own tone control.


There are already several Strats that have tone control on all 3 pups. :wink:


If I'm not mistaken aren't they wired so that the Bridge and Middle pickup are on one tone control and the neck pickup has it's own tone control?

I guess my mind works differently. I have wired/rewired a couple hundred guitars (some mine, and some belonging to others) in the past 17 years. Some of them quite unique and very different. Since I prefer the Bridge/Neck pickups on one tone control and the middle pickup on it's own tone control I was wondering/pondering why Fender did not wire Strats that way.

That is all that my post was about. Just something running through my mind.

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster question to ponder.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:08 am
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I don't get why you're coming down on me...the situation is simple, you have two tone controls and three pickups, to do what YOU want to do, you have four options, jumper two of the pickups, add another tone control, wire all three onto one tone control, or just leave it alone.

Do whatever you want. I'm done.


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