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Post subject: Strat screw sizes
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:47 pm
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So I was tightening my trem claw screw and I've accidently stripped the head of the screw on the treble side. I'm thinking of swapping that stripped screw with one of the neck screws because I barely ever unscrew them and they don't need to be screwed tighter than what the stripped head is capable of supporting. I was just wondering if those two screws are the same size on a 2013 standard MIM strat.
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Post subject: Re: Strat screw sizes
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:40 am
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They are the same size but I wouldn't swap them.

The neck screws need to be positive and, if the head is chewed, you may catch it on things.

Better to cut a slot in the head of the claw screw and tighten it with a flat blade screwdriver until you get around to replacing it.

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Post subject: Re: Strat screw sizes
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:14 am
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Size ?
Look to be screw size # 8 , 1" 3/4 long. This is a standard screw
http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/screws_neck.htm


https://www.allparts.com/GS-0039-001-Pack-of-4-Tremolo-Claw-Screws_p_1758.html

Don't use neck screw, ( don't play with these ) you can find a replacement claw screw at any good hardware store.
Bring original if not sure. The replacement screw may not have the same head, it don't care
See Lowe's, Home Depot...


Screw driver; Always use the biggest screw driver you can fit on screw head.
Claw screw ; you need a screw driver with long blade.


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Post subject: Re: Strat screw sizes
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:18 am
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Wood screws do have quite a variation in pitch, thread size, thread depth etc. subject to manufacturer. Unless you can obtain an exact match from a hardware store I would buy the correct guitar accessory screw.

Put some wax or soap on the thread of the screw before you put it in and absolutely use the correct size screwdriver.

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Post subject: Re: Strat screw sizes
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:31 am
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I never see different pitch on "standard" wood screws like those we found on Fender Guitars.

Fender always use low cost and standard screws easy found on the shelf.

Screws with different pitch I saw was for special use write on the box like for outside work, terrace or wood with preservative ....


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Post subject: Re: Strat screw sizes
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:53 am
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stratele52 wrote:
I never see different pitch on "standard" wood screws..


Perhaps that is the case in the States.

I am a joiner by trade and have drawers and drawers full of boxes of screws. We have un named screws, Twin Thread, Turbo Thread, Turbo Twin Thread, Fast Thread, Super Cut, fully threaded, threads with shafts etc etc. The variations of type of one size is almost mind numbing. It is difficult to say what might be "standard" in all the variations but I am pretty certain I couldn't perfectly match the screws that came out of my guitar with those I have in stock.

What I might consider a "standard" csk 1 3/4" Nº8 wood screw would, almost certainly, not have a thread the full length.

Like I say, it might be different in the Colonies.

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Post subject: Re: Strat screw sizes
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:34 pm
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Thanks for the help, I'm glad I asked now instead of jumping ahead and doing it!


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Post subject: Re: Strat screw sizes
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:47 am
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Also, since you sound to be rather new to this; be extremely careful when attaching/removing the trem springs. They make a special tool, but usually a needle nose pliers will suffice. I would hasten a guess that more Strats have been scratched during this procedure than any other!


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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:49 am
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Skydog6653 wrote:
Also, since you sound to be rather new to this; be extremely careful when attaching/removing the trem springs. They make a special tool, but usually a needle nose pliers will suffice. I would hasten a guess that more Strats have been scratched during this procedure than any other!

I've been using a screwdriver to 'lever' the circled end of the spring onto the hook for the past 6 years and my guitars seem to be scratchless, is it worth getting that tool because I am usually messing with those spring quite a lot, thanks.


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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:43 am
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If there is such a specialized tool, I'd vote it the most useless invention of (add the invention year).
If one can't be careful enough not to slip the spring off a screwdriver, one should use those needle nose pliers. If the spring still keeps slipping, one should leave the job to a pro. :wink:


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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:58 am
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jmattis wrote:
If there is such a specialized tool, I'd vote it the most useless invention of (add the invention year).
If one can't be careful enough not to slip the spring off a screwdriver, one should use those needle nose pliers. If the spring still keeps slipping, one should leave the job to a pro. :wink:


+1

But I'm having trouble understanding why the OP finds it necessary to continually "mess" with the trem springs. Once equilibrium and a happy medium has been achieved, what's the need for further diddling?

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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:04 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
jmattis wrote:
If there is such a specialized tool, I'd vote it the most useless invention of (add the invention year).
If one can't be careful enough not to slip the spring off a screwdriver, one should use those needle nose pliers. If the spring still keeps slipping, one should leave the job to a pro. :wink:


+1

But I'm having trouble understanding why the OP finds it necessary to continually "mess" with the trem springs. Once equilibrium and a happy medium has been achieved, what's the need for further diddling?

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Agreed. The only thing I've done is add 2 additional springs. I'm very happy with the results. I still have a floating trem that's a little stiff, but very usable and the tuning is much more stable. Manually installing the springs with no tool was easy. Once you've balanced your trem/bridge, there should never be a reason to "diddle" with the springs unless you want to replace them.


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