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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 1:14 pm
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Gleb Novikov,

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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 1:39 pm
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stratele52 wrote:
Gleb Novikov,

Trust Retroverbial, he know Fender stuff. He is a expert on forum.


So the whole guitar is mim?

As for me the sound is much better than average Mexican stratocasters, being enriched with cold tone with very profound sustain, as can be seen on my video.

BTW I have checked on Google the 1968 stratocasters - some of them at least visually have the same necks...

The only real problem is that the tremolo arm has not still installed, despite of my efforts ;x


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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 1:50 pm
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THIS is the correct 12th-fret dot spacing for all CBS-era Strat necks with the large headstock......

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ALL OF THEM.

It measures fifteen millimeters from inner edge to inner edge.

Measure yours and report back.

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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:28 pm
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Gleb Novikov wrote:

The only real problem is that the tremolo arm has not still installed, despite of my efforts ;x


We don't know if the arm is the right one.
A partcaster may sound very well too.


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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:50 pm
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Well spotted Arjay.
Not trying to be harsh but the op originally said he had a vintage strat knowing full well it was it is a mexi partscaster.
Now he seems uninterested in following any of the advice suggested to rectify the original problem.
The neck if genuine would also have some identifiers on the heel
That bound neck in your pic must be pretty rare! :D


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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:48 pm
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That are the photos of the guitar neck with the measure tool superimposed against 12 fret :-) https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... zc2YTZ2YkU

As i remember the problem with the tremolo arm has begun when I changed the strings gauge from 9 to 10, and then slightly altered 6 bolts tuning on the tremolo to modify sensitivity of the whole tremolo. Now if I look on the tremolo from the top view it seems like small mismatch within the hole.


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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:53 pm
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It sounds fine; but it is definitely not a vintage 1968 neck or a CS 1968 neck. As everyone has noticed. As long as it plays and feels good to you, rock on! Get a decent bridge replacement as suggested or make it a dedicated blocked bridge.


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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:54 am
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I look at and enlarge the first photo and see that the bridge plate hole and the block hole are not aligned (previously identified) The arm only has a small clearance thru the bridge plate hole so these holes must be aligned. Check that the screws connecting bridge plate to block can be adjusted to give alignment , otherwise (not recommended for a quality guitar) you can increase the bridge plate hole size to clear the block hole.
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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:10 am
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Gleb Novikov wrote:

As i remember the problem with the tremolo arm has begun when I changed the strings gauge from 9 to 10, and then slightly altered 6 bolts tuning on the tremolo to modify sensitivity of the whole tremolo. Now if I look on the tremolo from the top view it seems like small mismatch within the hole.


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You should say that first ... :(


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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 2:35 am
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Yep, thanks for the suggestions!

It really didn't come in mind that 6 bolts (which attach tremolo to the guitar body) tuning can affect the position for the tremolo arm, assuming that the instrument still stays in tune perfectly. :P I have checked some tutotials regarding manual bridge tuning but also didn't find possible correlation there.

Mechanically, what I've done - was to make a little tighter 1 and 6 bolts, while relaxing the rest of the bolts which should produce a softer tremolo action (the tension of backward springs were also relaxed via adjustment of 2 big bolts on the back), assuming that the increassed vibration of the tremolo bridge (without the arm, in the rest state) should add more sustain to the guitar sound in general :o

Could someone give me some tutorial for the adjustment of the bridge ?


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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 2:45 am
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Gleb Novikov wrote:
It really didn't come in mind that 6 bolts (which attach tremolo to the guitar body) tuning can affect the position for the tremolo arm, assuming that the instrument still stays in tune perfectly.


They don't.

The trem arm screws into the trem block (THROUGH THE BRIDGE PLATE). And the trem block is affixed to the bridge plate with three machine screws. There is no play between these three screws and their location in the trem block. You can loosen the six screws holding the bridge to the body all you want and it will NOT alter the position of the hole for the trem arm. And if the location of the hole in the bridge plate and the location of the hole in the trem block do not coincide, the trem arm can NEVER be installed.

You really should leave such matters to a professional technician or luthier.

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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:57 am
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Gleb Novikov wrote:
Could someone give me some tutorial for the adjustment of the bridge ?



Vintage style tremolo starts at around 3:15

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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 6:35 am
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Thanks so much for the tutorial!

It seems that in case of my part caster the hole on the tremolo is broken :-D today I have tried to work with isolated tremolo bar, unlocking it from the plate via 3 bolts hidden below the strings pockets :o

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XsRt ... p=drivesdk

So as you see on the picture, the arm was not installed properly even in the isolated bar, which indicates that the problems are inside,. :-)

Surprisingly, even after that operation guitar stays in tune very good. :-o

Probably I will change the tremolo bar but nor the springs :-)

Cheers,

Gleb


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Post subject: Re: Issue with the tremolo arm on Vintage stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:06 am
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I have installed the tremolo arm!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efYaqDcaU0


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