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Post subject: fender hss or epiphone les paul? wich is better
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:17 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:32 pm
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Welcome to the Forum.

That would be a personal choice. I suggest going out and trying both.

On the other hand this is a Fender Forum...... :lol:

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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:51 pm
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I would go with the HSS.

Maybe I just have not had good luck with the Epiphone Les Pauls, but I have not been extremely impressed by them. I love their look, but when it comes to playing them ... well ... not so much.

Just my $0.02.


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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:29 pm
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CAFeathers wrote:
On the other hand this is a Fender Forum...... :lol:


good point. Fender all the way.

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Post subject: Re: fender hss or epiphone les paul? wich is better
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:39 pm
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i want a new guitar.


You're comparing 'apples and oranges' here. There are so many differences with respect to the design and construction of the two types of guitars you mention. You need to do some serious reading on both the Les Paul and the Stratocaster and then look into the various incarnations and re-incarnations of the type.

Likely, by the time you're through, you'll be my age and have wasted a lifetime in research alone so....as my esteemed an learned colleague Chet suggested..."When the going gets tough, the tough go shopping!"

Doc :wink:

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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:22 am
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They are really different. We tried both and picked the strat. The Strat just feels better to us. But if a double humbucker sound is a high priority for you, then do not get the HSS, unless you have a good amp that will help compensate some. We use a Spider Jam amp and with the right preset, it sounds great on rock songs that are typically done with a Les Paul.


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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:19 am
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It's a Fender website, but we don't have to pretend other guitars don't exist. I love my Gibson Les Paul amongst others: there's reasons that model has lasted as long as the Tele and longer than the Strat (albeit it was "away" for some years).

However, a somewhat different experience of Epiphone. Beginning of this year someone gave me an Epi Custom LP "special edition" as a kind of tip for some work I'd done: wouldn't have been my first choice at that price point, but it would have been severely graceless to debate the question. So it was gladly accepted - and anyway, very un-hip to say so out loud, but secretly I've always thought the Epiphone headstock was a prettier shape than Gibson's (gasp). So I looked forward to adding it to the arsenal.

The guitar turned up, and I must say I am dismayed by it, for several reasons. The "designed in America" pickups are startlingly underwhelming to say the least: I spend a lot of time at the neck pickup on any guitar, and this one turns to mud with anything beyond a totally clean amp. Which sort of ain't the point of a Les Paul.

The finish is glitchy, in minor but irritating ways: lacquer not properly scraped off certain parts of the binding, and that binding itself is not perfect, which is eye-catching on a Custom (which carries proportionately more binding) - at least to the player.

The instrument boasts Grover tuners and “upgraded” (?) bridge - yet it holds pitch worse than any tremolo equipped guitar I've come across. It's almost like it's got an invisible Bigsby attached! Not impressive.

Lastly, the neck is just uninspiring, in a hard to pin down sort of way. My Gibson more or less requires me to break into my dubious approximation of Jimmy Page or some other driven bluesy kinda thing. This Epi doesn't do anything of the kind. It is laborious to play, rather than pleasurable. I've never parted with an instrument in my life, and I'll be keeping this one - but if you come visiting you may find it out of sight - as my bathroom guitar, perhaps.

Apart from getting all this screed off my chest, what I am suggesting is that at the price point we are discussing a Deluxe Strat might be a much better value purchase. If you want that HSS set-up take a look at the Deluxe Fat Strat, for instance, or the Deluxe Power Strat or the Lone Star Strat.

All assuming that, as our esteemed colleagues have said, you have discovered that your hands and ears are friendly to Strats rather than LPs in the first place.

Phew. I feel better for that!

Cheers - C


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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:24 am
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At the end of the day the HSS is a Fender and the Les Paul your looking at is not a Gibson


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At the end of the day the HSS is a Fender and the Les Paul your looking at is not a Gibson


Er, I think that's what I said. 'Cept you managed to make the point in less than two pages of writing.

One - nil to you, I suspect... :wink:

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What needs to be said has already been said above.
My opinion? HSS Strat... All day long.
But that's just me!

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Ceri wrote:
Dewie69 wrote:
At the end of the day the HSS is a Fender and the Les Paul your looking at is not a Gibson


Er, I think that's what I said. 'Cept you managed to make the point in less than two pages of writing.

One - nil to you, I suspect... :wink: One- nil to me you suspect? Im confused

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Dewie69 wrote:
Ceri wrote:
Dewie69 wrote:
At the end of the day the HSS is a Fender and the Les Paul your looking at is not a Gibson


Er, I think that's what I said. 'Cept you managed to make the point in less than two pages of writing.

One - nil to you, I suspect... :wink:

Cheers - C

One- nil to me you suspect? Im confused


I mean, you did the same job as me, but more efficiently. So, better.

That's all...

So long - C


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Ceri wrote:
Dewie69 wrote:
Ceri wrote:
Dewie69 wrote:
At the end of the day the HSS is a Fender and the Les Paul your looking at is not a Gibson


Er, I think that's what I said. 'Cept you managed to make the point in less than two pages of writing.

One - nil to you, I suspect... :wink:

Cheers - C

One- nil to me you suspect? Im confused


I mean, you did the same job as me, but more efficiently. So, better.

That's all...
It's all good just not all that good with some of the short hand,no worries
So long - C


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Dewie69 wrote:
Ceri wrote:
Dewie69 wrote:
Ceri wrote:
Dewie69 wrote:
At the end of the day the HSS is a Fender and the Les Paul your looking at is not a Gibson


Er, I think that's what I said. 'Cept you managed to make the point in less than two pages of writing.

One - nil to you, I suspect... :wink:

Cheers - C

One- nil to me you suspect? Im confused


I mean, you did the same job as me, but more efficiently. So, better.

That's all...

So long - C

It's all good just not all that good with some of the short hand,no worries


Sorry, no intention to confuse. Really, I was just lightly mocking my own verbosity, and paying you a small compliment along the way. :)

We've spent a lot of posts on this, haven't we? I'll try to be more transparent in the future.

Cheers - C


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