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Post subject: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:53 am
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This is my first post so please be kind :wink:

There is a local pawn shop that just took in a "2016 American Elite" that looks to be in great shape. It has locking tuners, mother-of-pearl (or so they look, I don't know the actual material) for the inlays, and the roller style string guide on the headstock, but it does not have the truss rods adjustment wheel. When I talked to the shop person, he said he "looked it up" and decided it's an elite. If I get the serial number to Fender will they tell me the actual model. (I would post pictures but they are on Craigslist and I don't know if that is ok)

The price is good for an elite, so-so for lesser models, but it does look brand new. It's sort of creamy yellow color. He is wanting $1000 firm.

Thanks in advance for any assistance. This seems to be a great board.


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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:17 am
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The guitar you see is not the new Elite guitar. In 1980 Fender build a Stratocaster named Elite too .

Take picture from CL

Found with Google , '80 Elite
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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:49 am
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From the description it could be an American Deluxe HSS.
The American Deluxe preceded the Elite.
The HSS models came with a roller nut.

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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:04 am
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Why not post the link/address to that original craigslist ad - as you see, the info you've given so far gives little base for answering.
Or give more data to work on: what pickups, which trem, is the pickguard also pearloid, serial number start..?

And while we try to guess, email the serial number to consumerrelations@fender.com - they usually provide the specs belonging to that serial as it left the factory.


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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:11 am
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stratmangler wrote:
From the description it could be an American Deluxe HSS.
The American Deluxe preceded the Elite.
The HSS models came with a roller nut.


+1
HSH with a roller nut too


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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:44 am
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tcheek1958 wrote:
... but it does not have the truss rods adjustment wheel...


Then it isn't a 2016 Elite. He has no doubt called it such because they are worth more, not because he knows what it is. Based on this it could be pretty much anything.

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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:20 am
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John Sims wrote:
tcheek1958 wrote:
... but it does not have the truss rods adjustment wheel...


Then it isn't a 2016 Elite. He has no doubt called it such because they are worth more, not because he knows what it is. Based on this it could be pretty much anything.

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Pawn speak for pay more for it, whether it is what I say it is or not.


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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:38 am
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As suggested, here is a link to the CL listing.

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/msg/5944080534.html

It doesn't appear to be an HSS, but I am a newbie.

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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:00 am
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Nice looking guitar, the last year of the American Deluxe Stratocaster.
Play it, if you like it buy it if you can afford it.
It should come with a hard case for that price.
It should have all the "new" documentation in the case and hang tags, wammy bar, polishing cloth.
But its definitely not an American Elite model....


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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:38 am
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I agree, looks like a legit American Deluxe to me.
The only (minor) thing I'm wondering is the pickguard/trem cover color - did Fender offer pearloid in 2016, or are those modded? (That's an upgrade, if anyone asks me... Bling on!)

BTW, when you get the answer (about the serial number) from Fender: which of the many white/blonde Fender colors is that one?


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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:29 pm
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tcheek1958 wrote:
As suggested, here is a link to the CL listing.

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/msg/5944080534.html

It doesn't appear to be an HSS, but I am a newbie.

Thanks


Good picture nice looking guitar.
How can we say it is a 2016 ? I see no serial number.
There is no roller string guide, it look like for a newbie but it is not, It is the original modern strings guide.

Don't forget the tremolo arm


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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:38 pm
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Just talked to the owner again. He does not have a case, tremolo arm, goodies, etc. It's just the guitar. Not even a strap. Oh well. It's pretty, but I have yet to see it in person as he is a town over from me and I can't get away from work today...and oh yeah we are supposed to get around a foot of snow tomorrow. We southerners don't know what to do with that much snow all at once...LOL

Thanks for all the input...it is truly appreciated. I really want this ax, I just have to be strong and wait for a better deal.

If he still has it next week I will go by and get the serial # so I can contact Fender to check on the color. Thanks


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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:45 pm
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No case, nothing ( stolen? ) it worth less than $900

And what about the serial number show it is a 2016, you can't phone him ?


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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:50 pm
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Definitely an American Deluxe.
Like the others, I'm not sure about the pickguard - my Deluxe has a Tortoiseshell pickguard.
The arm is a pop in one (no screw thread).
There should be Fender branded Schaller strap locks included, and you should get a Fender hard shell case with it.
If the pawn shop don't have those bits (case/arm/strap locks) haggle 'em down a couple of hundred, and if they won't do that walk.

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Post subject: Re: When is a 2016 American Elite not an AE?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:54 pm
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stratmangler wrote:

If the pawn shop don't have those bits (case/arm/strap locks) haggle 'em down a couple of hundred, and if they won't do that walk.



+1000


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