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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:45 am
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You should aso add to your lists of differences QUALITY CONTROL. The American made guitar is of better quality than it's Mexican countrpart and I agree we disagree and lets be done with this .It is getting really old, really fast. :roll:

Well, I think you going out into left field there for sure. To the contrary, I think it is because the MIM have such GOOD quality control is why the MIMs are as good and highly tauted as they are.

It sounds like you are confusing "quality control" with the additional finishing steps that go into the MIA necks, that do not go into the MIM ones (fret rolling, dressing, wood choice, etc.). Everyone agrees that MIA necks have more that go into them than an MIM. Yes, agreed. Further -- for you -- that neck difference (along with the previously mentioned differences) constitute a quantum-leap improvement in guitar. Okay ... that is your opinion. Some here will agree, and some won't. But I would venture a guess that a lack of "quality control" for the MIMs would represent a definite minority in this forum.


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UNCLE :roll: There I said it your right the mexicans are the best necks in the world and your just wasting money buying an American because the quality control is better on Mexicans They are the only guitar to own and everything else is inferior to your mexican strats they are the best you win I quit, bye :twisted:


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UNCLE :roll: There I said it your right the mexicans are the best necks in the world and your just wasting money buying an American because the quality control is better on Mexicans They are the only guitar to own and everything else is inferior to your mexican strats they are the best you win I quit, bye :twisted:


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Ummm, okay ... but no one was contesting your above thesis. And beyond that... dude, you may need a vacation. Just a thought.


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I think a sabatical would be more in order aad I'm taking one starting today, goodbye


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I think the original question was about Fender necks for sale. There are folks who part out Fender guitars rather than sell whole. That is fine. There are quite a few companies that sell Fender licensed necks(Allparts, Warmoth, Mighty Mite) and they are all nice quality necks. I have an Allparts rock maple neck with a rosewood fretboard, Tusq nut and roller trees on a Partsocaster. It rivals any MIA neck I have played. It is smooth and fast with good intonation and fretwork. I have nothing but good things to say about it.
I own a 1996 Fender Stratocaster Standard HSS, and the neck on it is very nice. The fretwork is consistent up the neck, the fret ends are smooth. The intonation is spot on. I have no complaints about it.
It is true, you get what you pay for. It is also true that I have known some players who rip on guitars, that in my hands, are unplayable to me. The action too high, the strings the wrong gauge. The set-up was all wrong FOR ME. But not for them. I used to jam with a buddy who played the crap out of an old Harmony Rocket 3. He would just light it up on that old guitar with a baseball bat neck, too high action, and heavy strings. It was what he was used to. You will play your best on a reasonbly good guitar that YOU get used to. Everybody likes something different.


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True and I'm tired of arguing with teenagers that think their Mexican strat is on par with the American...I give up..I'm all done with this forum...you guys have at it...I know, I know good ridance...God bless you all and Good bye


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Are you sure they're electric necks and not acoustics? Acoustic necks are made in Mexico and that pic looks a lot like the acoustic drying room in the 2003 tour pics.


Yes, that 2006 Photo Tour clearly shows electric guitar neck production at the Ensenada factory, from a raw plank, to finished product.

There are a lot of photos to go through, but well worth your while!

I actually made a DVD slide show to music with those photos!

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True and I'm tired of arguing with teenagers that think their Mexican strat is on par with the American...I give up..I'm all done with this forum...you guys have at it...I know, I know good ridance...God bless you all and Good bye

Dude, even though I only had a couple of posts, it seems like mine pushed you over the edge. I was not trying to piss you off or be enflamatory. Honestly, it sounds like you may have have misread what I wrote as I was just staying with the facts and away from opinion. Regardless, I sincerely apologize if you inferred a negative slant personally or musically.

PS Teenager-dom was loooooong ago...


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True and I'm tired of arguing with teenagers that think their Mexican strat is on par with the American...I give up..I'm all done with this forum...you guys have at it...I know, I know good ridance...God bless you all and Good bye


Another one is done with this forum.!??
I just don't understand.


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I'm going to post a reply to your question why? You can't write anything about an American strat with out people jumpng in and telling you A) They don't like them would never own ome...B) The quality of the Mexican neck is exactly the same and in many instances much better) C) The mexican strat is on par or BETTER than the American. I don't believe any of those posters have ever played an American anywhere but in a music store and to argue the Quality of the Mexican neck has better feel, is the same thing, has as much attention to detail or it's the same neck just sent to Mexico instead of America. I am sick of reading these posts and you can't say that American necks have better attention to detail and a better playability without every kid with a mexican posting multiple replies on how it's the same thing. You can't make a point without a ludicrous statement following it. Try saying you get what you pay for and you get blasted, Make a statement about the quality of the New Americans and a kid will jump in to tell you how he doesn't like them or would never own one. It seems every one has such strong opinions that their Mexicans are equal or superior and I'm just tired of reading posts from kids who have never owned an American and probably dream of having one some day. There aren't posotive posts and everthing said on this site is followed by an argument. I respect the right of everyone to HAVE their own oppinions about things but comparing a Mexican to an American and even mentoning that the quality control feel and sound is better leads to an onslaught of negative reactions from the "Mexi-Kids" So I'l just keep on playing my American Deluxe Ash strat and leave this forum behind. I was excited about sharing all things Fender after getting My new Strat but every post is met with an onslaught of arguments from the "Mexi-Kids". I'm tired of trying to justify why an American is better, but playing is believing. Everyone has aright to their opinion but I am soooo sick of reading "I'd never own one" or the Mexican neck is the same as the American on every post so I'm leaving. I'll just enjoy my American Deluxe Ash that I waited so long and worked so hard for. You can have all the negatives and Mexi-kids and I will have more enjoyable days elsewhere. That my friend, is the reason why. Too many arguments from peolple that wouldn't know an American neck if they tripped over it. Thanks to all and my best to every one


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I understand exactly what your saying, I have the same guitar you do.There are plenty of MIA strat owners on this site but who have learned over time to be polite, state your opinions and let the so called Mexi-Kids post. Anyone that knows will just ignore them and put it down as inexperience and move on with the satisfaction of knowing what you have. Don't let a post get the best of you. Ok, I've said enough .Good luck!


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If I wanted an argument everytime I said something, I'd get married. You guys with really good Americans , ebjoy and the best of luck to every one here. It seems like theirs 10 mexi-kids for every adult on this site and I have better things to do than repeat myself over and over. These kids wouldn't know an American strat if it bit them in the $@!, and I promise this will be the last post you'll see from me. I'm deleting this site from my computer, Goodbye and God Bless you all.


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makinglemonade wrote:
You really can't compare an 08 Fender MIA strat to a MIM neck, they are night and day difference and one of the big reaons why American made strats are more expensive. The attention to detail on an American neck is head and shoulders above the Mexicans. That doesn't mean that you don't have the right to your opinion but if you owned both you would realise the difference. It is (once again) comparing apples to oranges. The MIM is a nice strat and a great beginners or novice guitar. The American strat is a proffesional grade instrument and consistently better quality, build and sound than it's cheaper MIM cousin in every regard. You can choose to play and enjoy whatever you want and you certainly are entitled to your opinion but saying the MIM strats are better is ludicrous. You get what you pay for. Cheers and enjoy whatever your heart desires.


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makinglemonade wrote:
every post is met with an onslaught of arguments from the "Mexi-Kids" ...

1) Calling MIM owners "Mexi-Kids" is condescending and borderline delusional. So, let's get this straight: There are many of us here - myself included - that have been playing for multiple decades and have been owners of many guitars, including countless Fender products. For the record, I definitely retract my previous apology...
2) It seems you infer every contrary opinion to be an "attack" or an "onslaught". What is up with that? Is there no room for a contrary opinion, critical thought, and an intelligent debate? Evidently, not in your world...
3) For someone who talks so much about leaving the forum, you sure do post a lot.

For me, I have retracted my apology and clearly documented your inability to provide intelligent posts. Going forward, I will be staying with threads where the Strat players provide this capability (which is where I should have been all along). Anything else just makes me weary. But, please, keep the fight up without me...


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