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Post subject: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:01 am
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Hello all,

A seller is selling the guitar in the photos as a 2003-2004 American Standard.
I'm pretty sure it isn't an Am Std, maybe a Highway One, due to the bridge and the lack of the Micro-Tilt hole in the back.

Serial is Z305XXXX

Please let me know what you think. Thank you.

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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:44 am
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Agreed - the bridge and lack of micro-tilt aren't 03/04 AmStd.

Unless of course the bridge and neck plate have been changed?

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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:17 am
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Hmm, there are a few things that stand out to me on this one:

1. Body looks like a Highway 1 - it appears to be kind of a satin finish, and it has the 6-screw trem

2. But the neck has 1 string tree, like an American Series of that era. A Highway 1 would have the same headstock and logo, but it should have 2 string trees and it does not appear that a string tree was removed.

3. The back plate doesn't match anything else on the guitar.

If you have the full serial number send it to Fender and see what they say about it - you can email them at consumerrelations@fender.com.


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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:25 pm
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Could be a Am series strat neck with a Hwy1 body. In other words a partscaster


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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:45 am
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Can't find any production model with all those components, so I'd go with Partscaster, too.

I agree on the neck, it looks legit, from an American (Series, not Standard) Stratocaster 2003.

The body is a bigger puzzle, with the vintage trem. (The black trem plate is a misfit as mentioned above...)
I would like to see the neck pocket, under the pickguard (wiring, pups etc.).
It's possible it's from a Highway One, but then, IMHO, the neck/body combo wouldn't make much sense.
One note: so far nothing to confirm the neck&body are from the same year.


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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:50 pm
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Looking at the pictures, I am 100% certain that is a Hwy. 1 Body (had one just like it). The neck/head stock....have no clue. I DO know they don't go together.


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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:58 am
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John C wrote:
Hmm, there are a few things that stand out to me on this one:

1. Body looks like a Highway 1 - it appears to be kind of a satin finish, and it has the 6-screw trem

2. But the neck has 1 string tree, like an American Series of that era. A Highway 1 would have the same headstock and logo, but it should have 2 string trees and it does not appear that a string tree was removed.

3. The back plate doesn't match anything else on the guitar.

If you have the full serial number send it to Fender and see what they say about it - you can email them at consumerrelations@fender.com.


I was going to say that it was an early Highway 1, but then I too noticed that it only had a single string tree. I'm also inclined to believe that this is a parts guitar with a a nice Fender neck.


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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:04 pm
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Thank you all for your help.

Let me add to the mystery by saying that the seller is also puzzled when confronted with the obvious divergences, as he says he bought new in a store, fully stock.

I e-mailed Fender 1 week ago and am still waiting for an answer. Will post it here as well.


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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:46 am
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BMVC wrote:
Hello all,

A seller is selling the guitar in the photos as a 2003-2004 American Standard.
I'm pretty sure it isn't an Am Std, maybe a Highway One, due to the bridge and the lack of the Micro-Tilt hole in the back.

Serial is Z305XXXX

Please let me know what you think. Thank you.

http://postimg.org/image/l22bl7ioz/
http://postimg.org/image/67dq71943/
http://postimg.org/image/5j4vo3aeb/
It's not an AmStd Strat. Most noticeable traits missing are: 2-point pivot 'fulcrum' tremolo system, lack of micro-tilt neck. Though the headstock/neck do seemed like the closest thing. Also, good luck with Fender as most of them don't know jack!

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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:55 pm
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That Z on the Serial # leads me to believe that it's a Mexican Neck. But Fender has GREAt customer Service and they have always been a great help to me on any question I had. I this you have a parts caster with a possible Highway one body and a Mexican Neck. Call fender and find out for sure. Good Luck to you. Hard to believe a Music Store would sell this though, but Greed is a horrible thing and some people have no conscience.


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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:44 pm
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Just to keep things clear: A "Z" alone in a Fender serial number points to US instruments, "MZ" to Mexican. Here, Z3 (plus five/six digits) would suggest US-2003
(Suggest, because authenticity should never be judged by a serial# alone.)


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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:42 pm
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Stevens wrote:
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That Z on the Serial # leads me to believe that it's a Mexican Neck.
But Fender has GREAt customer Service and they have always been a great help to me on any question I had. I this you have a parts caster with a possible Highway one body and a Mexican Neck. Call fender and find out for sure. Good Luck to you. Hard to believe a Music Store would sell this though, but Greed is a horrible thing and some people have no conscience.
The Z does not indicated the origin where the guitar is made. The Z means the decade of 2000.

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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:40 am
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BMVC wrote:
Let me add to the mystery by saying that the seller is also puzzled when confronted with the obvious divergences, as he says he bought new in a store, fully stock.



A word to the wise - people lie...particularly when they're trying to get away with something.

I once purchased a Strat body for a project and the seller swore up and down it was "a mid 80's American body from a Strat Deluxe". I could tell from the tooling alone that it wasn't even a genuine Fender body, but he kept going on about how it was American and would NOT take less than $120 for it...right up to the point that I broke out a tape measure and showed him the METRIC bridge spacing (I think the body is Ibanez, not that it matters). Having caught the guy red faced in a lie, he changed his tune, said that was how he purchased the guitar and I ended up walking away with the body for $20.

It's always tempting to accept people at their word...and it would certainly be nice if people were more honest, but when it comes to guitars (and guitar parts) and especially Fender, it's usually best to BE SURE, regardless of what the seller might say.

BTW...on the guitar itself, I agree with the general consensus - partscaster. As others have already said, an American Standard would have a 2 point trem. I have nothing against a good partscaster at all, however do be sure to scale your offer back accordingly.

Just my opinion.


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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:37 am
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it would certainly be nice if people were more honest
Agreed! But as another poster said; greed get's the best of a LOT of sheeple.

When I sold my Hwy. 1...my honesty actually became a "selling point", and only helped.
It was a 60th. Anniversary issue, and I completely destroyed any value that particular trait may or may not have added to the guitar, because I switched out the electronics and pick guard for a loaded pick guard with CS Texas Specials. The buyer did not care...all he was concerned with was if they were all genuine Fender parts; and I was able to prove they were (without taking the pick guard off) with paper work and original boxes (that Twilight sent with the loaded pick guard).

I did not (and would not have) try to sell the guitar as 'completely original'. You either buy it for what it IS, or you pass...I didn't NEED to sell the thing, so I had no reason to tempt anyone with lies. And I wish everyone else was the same way.


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Post subject: Re: Is this an American Std or not?
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:23 am
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White Dog wrote:
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it would certainly be nice if people were more honest


....When I sold my Hwy. 1...

....I had no reason to tempt anyone with lies. And I wish everyone else was the same way.
Don't we all wish, but this will never be the case with most people, whether they are selling on ebay, selling from a dept store, or selling across from state to state to get your votes.

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