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Post subject: Re: Need help from expert..
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:19 am
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John Sims wrote:
jimmy_james wrote:
I suspect due to the manufacturing date of your strat that it originally had a vintage bridge then someone modified it by placing a floyd rose style bridge on it.
It was then restored to a vintage style... :D


That was my thought. It was modified and has already been returned to its original form.

I assume the headstock has been blown over with a tinted lacquer to hide the repair in removing the roller nut.


since u said so.. i agreed with u..i just confuse whether to just let it be like that or restore to original form..


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Post subject: Re: Need help from expert..
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:15 am
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yussv wrote:
jimmy_james wrote:
I suspect due to the manufacturing date of your strat that it originally had a vintage bridge then someone modified it by placing a floyd rose style bridge on it.
It was then restored to a vintage style... :D


u were saying that the bridge is not a floyd rose style at first it came out from factory?? i thought so too.. but how do we explain the neck? i can see the locking nut space there..


Floyd Rose bridges weren't really around when this one left the factory in the 1979-1981 era - Floyd was still working on the design and building them in his garage on a very small scale until about 1982-83 when he started working with Eddie Van Halen and Kramer (and eventually adding the fine-tuners to the design) and they went into larger-scale production by Schaller.

It looks like this one had a Floyd Rose professionally installed, and then later it was professionally removed and restored to as close to stock as it could get, which includes that space behind the current nut and filling those two holes on the headstock. I would leave it alone - you would either be returning it to its modified form (by putting a Floyd back on it) or you would be re-doing the current restoration to try to make it a little closer to factory spec. The current restoration is really very good.

Hey, look at David Gilmour's "The Black Strat" - he had a big piece of wood chopped out of the body to fit a Kahler tremolo, then he had it restored by filling that space and painting over it (granted he ditched the Charvel-built neck that had the Kahler nut on it and put a Fender neck back on it as part of the restoration). Look at this guitar as another "survivor" of those days.


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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:42 am
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John C wrote:
Hey, look at David Gilmour's "The Black Strat" - he had a big piece of wood chopped out of the body to fit a Kahler tremolo, then he had it restored by filling that space and painting over it (granted he ditched the Charvel-built neck that had the Kahler nut on it and put a Fender neck back on it as part of the restoration). Look at this guitar as another "survivor" of those days.


+1

I don't see any need for a re-finish at this point -- it's actually a pretty nice looking guitar. I'd merely re-assemble it, set it up to factory specs, then play the hell out of it for another 30 or 40 years.

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:41 pm
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Hello yussv,
I think that is a '79 from the body date, and that's all we have to go on as Fender were (still are!) notoriously bad a linking serial numbers to the dates when their instruments left the factory.
Fender did have their own version of the Floyd for sometime, maybe that guitar had one of those. With regard to re-finishing, I would be inclined to leave it as it is, clean it up a bit, remove the protective plastic from the scratchplate (that will tidy it up straight away) and then re-string it. By the way, if you string it the correct way, it will look a lot neater.
Hope that helps a bit. Please let us know what you decide to do.


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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:54 pm
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19martin48 wrote:
Hello yussv,
I think that is a '79 from the body date, and that's all we have to go on as Fender were (still are!) notoriously bad a linking serial numbers to the dates when their instruments left the factory.
Fender did have their own version of the Floyd for sometime, maybe that guitar had one of those. With regard to re-finishing, I would be inclined to leave it as it is, clean it up a bit, remove the protective plastic from the scratchplate (that will tidy it up straight away) and then re-string it. By the way, if you string it the correct way, it will look a lot neater.
Hope that helps a bit. Please let us know what you decide to do.


No, this one would not have left Fullerton with a Floyd Rose; Fender only had an odd string clamp with fine tuners that went behind the nut circa 1984 that could be added to the original Elite and the 2-knob Standard models. After that Fender had 3 different "tremolo systems" on the MIJ Contemporary models that start in 1985. Later on they started using Kahler's versions of a Floyd Rose (mostly the Spyder model, but a few things had the Steeler model) until they eventually became distributors for Floyd Rose products after Kramer went bankrupt.

But nothing as early as this Strat.


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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:14 pm
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19martin48 wrote:
By the way, if you string it the correct way, it will look a lot neater.


+1

It'll also stay in tune longer.

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