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Post subject: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:23 am
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Does anyone know what pickups the Roadhouse Stratocaster 2015 v6 come with? :?:
I really like them so much that i'm going to buy another set for my older start but i dunno if they are CS Texas Specials or just Texas Specials..
what are the differences and which one are hotter? :D

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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:30 am
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Looking at what Fender has for sale, the only Texas Specials specifically listed as Custom Shop are the Tele pickups. If you look at the listing for the Texas Special Strat pickups, you can see the packaging shows them as Custom Shop. I have the Roadhouse, and I have seen it listed as both Texas Specials and S Texas Specials. My guess would be that they are CS since the packaging on Fender's site shows them as CS.

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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:41 am
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Also...to answer the "which is hotter" question; I have CS Texas Specials, and I've only played and heard regular Texas Specials on a friends guitar---and it is my opinion that the Custom Shop pickup's are hotter with the same distance between pickup's and strings.

I understand everyone's ears are different, and there are other factors that may play a part...but that is my only personal experience.


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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:04 am
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yesterday i finally got the chance to compare side by side my guitar with texas specials and another start with new brand custom shop texas special....
my conclusion:
my guitar was more glassy with good bass response and balanced mids and hotter!!!
(imagine a twin reverb)
my friend's start was more nasally with a little less (just a hair) output and dull bass (imagine a vox ac30 sound)

so i guess is not the name of the pickup(or nationality) but more how the pick was made...

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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:54 am
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this is a pic of my pickups!!!
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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 4:41 am
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When I first bought this guitar, I really thought I liked it. But for whatever reason, I'm having a hard time finding love for my Deluxe Roadhouse. Not completely sure what it is.
I DO love the fit and feel, and I've got everything set how I like it (string height, neck bow, saddles & intonation, etc...) as far as that goes. But it's taking a lot of time (got the guitar at the end of February) to dial in a sound I like.
I'm beginning to think I don't care for the Custom Shop Texas Specials.

You'd think with a built in pre-amp, S-1 by-pass switch, 6 position rotary tone switch, 3 single coil pickups, a 5 way selector switch, and a tone knob---a guy would find SOMETHING pleasing to his ear?

I have not given up. I'm experimenting with pickup height, and amp choices.

I'm not saying this guitar, or these pickups are not capable of putting out nice sound....I'm saying that I am having a hard time finding my sound.

I had a Hwy. 1 that I didn't like much, so I put CS Texas Specials in it hoping I would love it, and I did not. In that case, I thought it was the Rosewood fret board that turned me off...but now that I have this Deluxe Roadhouse, I'm beginning to think it was the pickups. Maybe the CS Texas Specials just aren't for me.

Just giving "food for thought" to anyone looking to buy one. Play it first. Play through tube and Solid State amps (if you own both). Experiment with pedals (if you use them). Do every thing you can BEFORE you plunk down money for the thing---don't be me.


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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:10 am
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There is only one set of Texas Specials and they are all the same in terms of "hot".
They have been since the day they came out which is a whole lot of years ago.
Nothing has changed.
There are only Custom Shop Texas Specials.
There are no "regular" Texas Specials and there never have been.
I don't imagine it's likely there ever will be.
Any difference you might hear between one set of TS and another set could be due to a difference in setup or possibly the wiring scheme but most likely it's just in your imagination.
Assuming, of course, that all else is equal.
Same amp, same f/x, same hands, etc.

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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 10:06 am
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BMW-KTM wrote:
There is only one set of Texas Specials and they are all the same in terms of "hot".
They have been since the day they came out which is a whole lot of years ago.
Nothing has changed.
There are only Custom Shop Texas Specials.
There are no "regular" Texas Specials and there never have been.
I don't imagine it's likely there ever will be.
Any difference you might hear between one set of TS and another set could be due to a difference in setup or possibly the wiring scheme but most likely it's just in your imagination.
Assuming, of course, that all else is equal.
Same amp, same f/x, same hands, etc.


Correct.

Any labeling to the contrary is merely marketing hype.

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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 10:39 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
BMW-KTM wrote:
There is only one set of Texas Specials and they are all the same in terms of "hot".
They have been since the day they came out which is a whole lot of years ago.
Nothing has changed.
There are only Custom Shop Texas Specials.
There are no "regular" Texas Specials and there never have been.
I don't imagine it's likely there ever will be.
Any difference you might hear between one set of TS and another set could be due to a difference in setup or possibly the wiring scheme but most likely it's just in your imagination.
Assuming, of course, that all else is equal.
Same amp, same f/x, same hands, etc.


Correct.

Any labeling to the contrary is merely marketing hype.

Arjay


+10K...I have a set of CS Texas Specials in my 60's Classic Series Strat and they sound nearly the same as a buddies with the same pickups in a American Standard.

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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 12:43 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
There is only one set of Texas Specials and they are all the same in terms of "hot".
They have been since the day they came out which is a whole lot of years ago.
Nothing has changed.
There are only Custom Shop Texas Specials.
There are no "regular" Texas Specials and there never have been.
I don't imagine it's likely there ever will be.
Any difference you might hear between one set of TS and another set could be due to a difference in setup or possibly the wiring scheme but most likely it's just in your imagination.
Assuming, of course, that all else is equal.
Same amp, same f/x, same hands, etc.


Finally someone told it like it is, Texas Specials are Texas Specials and CS is just marketing.
Personally I love the TS pups in my AmSpcl it gives me just the sound I want, and I'm taking clean, specially neck pup and middle/bridge that have that much wanted Strat quack. Only the ballance I didn't like with high 3rd pole but that's sorted now. When I played MK signature with same pups there is a difference is in neck radius so it doesn't stand out as much on the G string, so yeah be it a Signature model, or Standard or Roadhouse or Special or you buy it from Fender packed CS they are all the same TS pups.
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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 1:52 pm
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Finally someone told it like it is, Texas Specials are Texas Specials and CS is just marketing.
Thanks for the kind words but I wouldn't call the CS label marketing hype. The truth is, there was a time when you could only get them through the Custom Shop and if memory serves I believe originally the only way to get them was if you actually bought a CS guitar equipped with them. They were conceived, designed and built in the Custom Shop first .... for the exclusive use of the Custom Shop.

Of the Shop, by the Shop and for the Shop ... to borrow from a famous document.
To be perfectly honest I have no idea if they are still assembled and wound exclusively in the CS but they are CS pups.

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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 1:38 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
WaymoreProta wrote:
Finally someone told it like it is, Texas Specials are Texas Specials and CS is just marketing.
Thanks for the kind words but I wouldn't call the CS label marketing hype. The truth is, there was a time when you could only get them through the Custom Shop and if memory serves I believe originally the only way to get them was if you actually bought a CS guitar equipped with them. They were conceived, designed and built in the Custom Shop first .... for the exclusive use of the Custom Shop.

Of the Shop, by the Shop and for the Shop ... to borrow from a famous document.
To be perfectly honest I have no idea if they are still assembled and wound exclusively in the CS but they are CS pups.


IIRC the TS first appeared on the SRV Strat.


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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 7:36 pm
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JaredD wrote:
IIRC the TS first appeared on the SRV Strat.

Either we're both right or we're both wrong, because that's what I recall as well.

As I recall, they were trying to develop some fatter, deeper-sounding pickups that maintained the spank and sparkle of a Strat to put in the (then-developing) SRV Stratocaster before his death.

I read there were some legal hurdles (involving the protection of Stevie's image and name by Jimmie and Martha) that slowed down the introduction of his signature model.

Texas Specials were also "stock" in the neck and middle pickups on the Lone Star Stratocaster introduced in 1996 (there was a Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates humbucker in the bridge) and the Roadhouse Deluxe Stratocaster (SSS configuration), too.

I like Texas Specials, but their presence in Stratocasters became over-saturated here in the Lone Star State when they became available as a replacement set (not just in a production model guitar), so to shake things up a little bit, when I decided to replace my Stratocaster's pickups, I went with a set of Pete Biltoft Vintage Vibe SP-90's--Strat-sized P-90 pickups.

They have some similar traits as Texas Specials--fatter and richer than a stock set of Strat pickups, yet maintaining the spank and sparkle...but the SP-90s are a bit punchier and chunkier in tone (like a P-90 should be).

By the way, Welcome to the Forum, JaredD!

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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 7:54 pm
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Screamin Armadillo wrote:
Texas Specials were also "stock" in the neck and middle pickups on the Lone Star Stratocaster introduced in 1996 (there was a Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates humbucker in the bridge...

On a totally unrelated note, I always thought that Dallas Bluesman Jim Suhler should have been given some kind of recognition in relation to the Lone Star Stratocaster model--undoubtedly there were other people who put Pearly Gates humbuckers in the bridge position on a vintage-looking Strat (one that was not meant to be shred upon, a la EVH), but Suhler sure made it popular amongst Blues-rock players in D/FW in the early 90's...that model looked like it was designed specifically for him!

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Post subject: Re: Roadhouse Stratocaster CS Texas Specials
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 9:16 am
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There is a nagging little tickle in my brain at reading this.
I can't be certain at present, without doing some digging, but I have a gut feeling there is more to this story.
I'm almost certain you guys are correct in that the SRV Strat was the first Strat to sport the TS pups.
I just can't shake this feeling though, that the very first TS pups ever made were actually for the Merle Haggard Tuff Dog Tele and that he was the one who first commissioned their creation.
I miss the input of Martian at times like this.

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