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Post subject: Re: Differences in 35th Anniversary Stratocasters?
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:37 pm
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I haven't read all the comments, but from what I understand, 3 different sellers have it all wrong with the same mistake compared to Fender specs?

Yet to be answered, and perhaps never, due to the passage of time and absolutely horrible record keeping on the part of FMIC is whether or not they actually changed the top somewhere in the course of the production of the limited edition series. Fender has done stupid things like that before. Around the same time period, they produced a short run of the Deluxe American Standard Stratocaster which was, absent the roller nut and locking tuners, a Strat Plus where the electronics were concerned for that time frame, i.e. Lace Sensor pickups which had been reserved for the Strat Plus and then the Clapton.

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Post subject: Re: Differences in 35th Anniversary Stratocasters?
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:26 pm
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The real answer would have to come from Greg Fessler(oldest survivor) @ the custom shop. He is credited w/ the build of the E969200 guitar from the music zoo and is still listed as a Masterbuilder for Fender custom shop....if he remembers, its been a while ago so he may have a little fuzz.....
I stand by my assumption of a replacement neck of similar quality to the original specs......for whatever reason.

Given the circumstances of the timing, number of builders etc etc, flame must be faster to do than quilt. The quilt sure looks much finer and should garner a higher price if anyone ever sees one up for sale.

I think all the posts regarding the sale of these guitars are fairly accurate and show how difficult it can be to track down info on vintage guitars.


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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:47 pm
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The real answer would have to come from Greg Fessler(oldest survivor) @ the custom shop. He is credited w/ the build of the E969200 guitar from the music zoo and is still listed as a Masterbuilder for Fender custom shop....if he remembers, its been a while ago so he may have a little fuzz..

Ask your respondent in Scottsdale to put the question to Fessler for you. We all may learn something from it. :idea: :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Differences in 35th Anniversary Stratocasters?
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:58 pm
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I already learned that they were originally fitted w/ the Wilkinson nut from the spec sheet. Probably, stopped that do to the demand for the plus(must have only been a few of those). I hadn't thought about sending a pm to Arjay. He does know a lot......I would love to see a pick of #001.


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Post subject: Re: Differences in 35th Anniversary Stratocasters?
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:58 am
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I already learned that they were originally fitted w/ the Wilkinson nut from the spec sheet. Probably, stopped that do to the demand for the plus(must have only been a few of those).

Overkill can be a sin for FMIC. Look how many variations of the Hendrix guitar they've done. One for each generation of players. I'm sure the Hendrix Estate is doing well on this too.

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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:40 am
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I already learned that they were originally fitted w/ the Wilkinson nut from the spec sheet. Probably, stopped that do to the demand for the plus(must have only been a few of those).

Overkill can be a sin for FMIC. Look how many variations of the Hendrix guitar they've done. One for each generation of players. I'm sure the Hendrix Estate is doing well on this too.


It could be that they were short on Wilkinson nuts at the time - they would have been making both the Strat Plus and the Strat Plus Deluxe in 1989, and maybe even the Tele Plus Deluxe in 1989, all of which used the Wilkinson nut (I can't remember if the Tele Plus Deluxe was a 1989 or a 1990 introduction).

Or they could have just decided they wanted the 35th Anniversary model to "stand out" more from the production line instruments - as you say they do tend to overkill some things.


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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:52 am
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Or they could have just decided they wanted the 35th Anniversary model to "stand out" more from the production line instruments - as you say they do tend to overkill some things.

Well John, you've been pretty much one of our 'go to guys' in the matter of FMIC 'trivia' and I'm still hot on the idea of the OP tapping Fessler on this question.

I wouldn't mind finding out if they have a schematic/wiring diagram on that circuit. I know there's one on the original Clapton with the mode switch in Duchossoir's book, but I wouldn't mind getting one from their files. :idea: I need to have my Generation I Clapton rewired.

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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:02 am
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I sent an email back to Fender with the link from The Music Zoo asking if Greg Fessler could comment.

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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:57 am
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I sent an email back to Fender with the link from The Music Zoo asking if Greg Fessler could comment. Scott

Excellent. Now we wait. :wink:

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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:22 pm
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I sent an email back to Fender with the link from The Music Zoo asking if Greg Fessler could comment. Scott

Excellent. Now we wait. :wink:


Arjay, wasn't much help on this model. Go figure.
Maybe this thread should be moved to the custom shop header?
Hope he has a good memory.....it may be one of the first few guitars he every worked on in the custom shop.
I saw another "35th on reverb today" no on/off switch, wrong pickguard...etc. It did have the neck though.


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Post subject: Re: Differences in 35th Anniversary Stratocasters?
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:18 am
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sfceric64 wrote:
I saw another "35th on reverb today" no on/off switch, wrong pickguard...etc. It did have the neck though.


This one? https://reverb.com/item/32120-fender-stratocaster-1989-sunburst-flametop

Did Fender ever produce noiseless pickups with pole pieces?

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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:26 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
I wouldn't mind finding out if they have a schematic/wiring diagram on that circuit. I know there's one on the original Clapton with the mode switch in Duchossoir's book, but I wouldn't mind getting one from their files.


Not sure if this helps: http://imageshack.com/f/79/switchedecstratji2.jpg

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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:49 am
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Scott Fagen wrote:
sfceric64 wrote:
I saw another "35th on reverb today" no on/off switch, wrong pickguard...etc. It did have the neck though.


This one? https://reverb.com/item/32120-fender-stratocaster-1989-sunburst-flametop
Yep that one, I realize it's a 2 year old listing. But I hadn't seen it before.

Did Fender ever produce noiseless pickups with pole pieces?
Yes, all of them as far as I know; is this a trick question? They didn't produce the Lase Sensors as far as I know.

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Post subject: Re: Differences in 35th Anniversary Stratocasters?
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:04 am
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Here's a thought. Fender produced TWO 50th Anniversary Stratocastermodels. One celebrated te company. The other celebrated the guitar. Wonder if they did the same thing for the 35th Anniversary. :?: :roll: Tne Fender VN pickups have pole pieces. Clapton installed those pickups in his guitar. In any event, pickups with pole pieces do not match the specs for the Lace Sensors of the quilt top model.

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Post subject: Re: Differences in 35th Anniversary Stratocasters?
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:07 am
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Scott Fagen wrote:
ZZDoc wrote:
I wouldn't mind finding out if they have a schematic/wiring diagram on that circuit. I know there's one on the original Clapton with the mode switch in Duchossoir's book, but I wouldn't mind getting one from their files.


Not sure if this helps: http://imageshack.com/f/79/switchedecstratji2.jpg
Thanks for the effort. That's one I referred to in my comment.


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