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Post subject: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:16 pm
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I just got my Standard HH Stratocaster MIM three days ago. I've only played it twice. That guitar has amazing sustain. So I love my new Stratocaster HH MIM. Quick question. When I'm on this Fender website on the specs page for the HH Standard Fender, there is not any real detail about the "Blacktop" pups.

What are they? They sound alot like Alnico 2. To my ear at least. They have that sweet, warm sound that most A2's have. I know that on the specs page Fender lists that the MIA has A5 bridge, A2 Neck.

If any Fender people have any real hard and fast facts on which Alinco's these are I'd appreciate it.

I like them alot. Theres massive gain, and sparkly harmonics everywhere in the chording, solos with high gain distortion. The cleans are warm, sweet, compressed, lower volume. I don't love the cleans, but they work for now.

I can change the neck pick ups with a p'up switch out to A5's or Ceramic C8. And as it would be Fender has the very cool Twin Head Vintage or Modern.

I can also change out the Bridge to an A5 with the Twin Head Modern.

The Vintage Twin is in the MIA. The Modern Twin Head is in the MIA Deluxe HSH.

If you need any info, I'll be glad to give you facts, stuff about my rig, gear etc.


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:04 pm
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The MIM blacktop HH has unspecified AlNiCo pickups made by Boo Heung Precision Machinery in Korea. Those guys make cheap stock pickups for many different guitar brands, including Charvel, Ibanez, Gretch and Fender.
Given that they're as hot as 13k, they're likely Alnico 5, or even 8, but I'm not sure that even Fender knows.

If you like them, good for you.


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:39 pm
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arth1 wrote:
The MIM blacktop HH has unspecified AlNiCo pickups made by Boo Heung Precision Machinery in Korea. Those guys make cheap stock pickups for many different guitar brands, including Charvel, Ibanez, Gretch and Fender.
Given that they're as hot as 13k, they're likely Alnico 5, or even 8, but I'm not sure that even Fender knows.

If you like them, good for you.


You got it right. Then you got it wrong. I didn't say the Blacktop HH, which Fender discontinued. I said the HH Standard MIM which is not the same guitar. The Blacktop HH has Hot Vintage Alnico Humbucking Bridge Pickup. Is that the pickup you vaguely had trouble describing?

Thats not the same pickup in the Fender HH Standard. Different pickup, same name as the guitar. Doubt it's hot. I played it, and it's A2 warm in the bridge, A2 neck compressed. Not hot. You get confused easy. I'm not suprised. Ease up on the cheap slurrs dude. Not funny.


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:46 pm
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Arcmoon wrote:
arth1 wrote:
The MIM blacktop HH has unspecified AlNiCo pickups made by Boo Heung Precision Machinery in Korea. Those guys make cheap stock pickups for many different guitar brands, including Charvel, Ibanez, Gretch and Fender.
Given that they're as hot as 13k, they're likely Alnico 5, or even 8, but I'm not sure that even Fender knows.

If you like them, good for you.


About the cheap. Dude I play circles around your junk in music. Second JB's, and Full Shreds, they're are weaknesses in both. In my Seymor Duncans and in Dimarzio there are full weaknesses in the those pups. Quit your trolling.

You got it right. Then you got it wrong. I didn't say the Blacktop HH, which Fender discontinued. I said the HH Standard MIM which is not the same guitar. The Blacktop HH has Hot Vintage Alnico Humbucking Bridge Pickup. Is that the pickup you vaguely had trouble describing?

Thats not the same pickup in the Fender HH Standard. Different pickup, same name as the guitar. Doubt it's hot. I played it, and it's A2 warm in the bridge, A2 neck compressed. Not hot. You get confused easy. I'm not suprised. Ease up on the cheap slurrs dude. Not funny.


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:13 am
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About the company who makes pickups for Ibanez, Fender. I need some proof. Don't have it. Lies. Lets keep this about the question? I asked whether they were A2 or A5. I doubt that the Blacktop HH is now Standard with a different name. The Pups are different. Where did you get that info? Bogus.


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:03 am
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As a general note, it's easier to get answers from forum members with politeness than rudeness - the old honey/vinegar/flies etc.

On the pickups, a quote from the service manual:
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10 – PICKUP BOOHEUNG ZEBRA BLK/CHR NK - 7706968000
11 – PICKUP BOOHEUNG ZEBRA BLK/CHR BRG - 7706969000


Booheung doesn't seem to publish specs on their pickups, and the web site has empty spots on pup pages. But they give the option to contact them directly or order a catalogue, both of which might be of help: http://www.mindech.com/

According to web statistics, they do have transactions with guitar companies like Fender and Gibson, (some also link their name to GFS) so their products can be in almost any guitar brand. For Fender, humbuckers and Fideli'trons - at least.

On the AlNiCo this or AlNiCo that question, for all I know they could be ceramic.

Now, do the pickups sound better or worse, after you've read these answers..? :wink:


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:45 am
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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:51 am
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Arcmoon wrote:
You get confused easy. I'm not suprised. Ease up on the cheap slurrs dude. Not funny.

Don't shoot the messenger of news you don't like.

Please take your ad hominem attacks elsewhere. I said nothing about you, and tried to help. But if you keep it up, that is going to change, and that is going to change.

Anyhow, since you don't seem to believe people, check for yourself.
- Remove the pickguard and look at the back of the pickups. Look for a sticker on them saying BHK. That's short for Boo Heung Korea. Same as found on entry level guitars for many companies, especially Charvel and Epiphone.
- Measure the resistance with an ohmmeter or multimeter.
- If in a destructive mode, and really have to know the magnet strength, order a second set (the e-Bay prices seem to be around $25-30). Pry out the pole pieces and measure how magnetic they are. Don't hammer them out, as you'll demagnetize them.

Do some searches here in the forum too. There have been threads about replacements of the stock pickups.


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:16 am
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Arcmoon wrote:
Dude I play circles around your junk in music.

Which gig of mine did you go to? If you thought the music was junk, we can certainly see about refunding you.


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:20 am
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Let me get real for you. I have read dozens of threads that overly praise Seymor Duncans. I have played dozens of
Ibanez, Charvel, with Duncans in them, that are sterile, and have no life in them. Many Duncans don't suit certain woods. When I picked up this guitar, I was suprised. That Fender makes better pick ups that all Duncans. When you see PAF. That's pattened applied for. When you go to one pickup maker or another, they all claim to have duplicated the holy grail to a tee, the PAF. Do your research. Where you there when I played the guitar.

Your comment about cheap is dead wrong. Keep it nice.

Im not the first person on the chat room to ask the person to keep it reasonable. Your good at changing the quesiton. They could be made by that manufacturer. But cheap sounding their not. Fenders pickups are out of this world. Much better than most or all Duncans.

I loved this pickups way before I bought em, I played em numerous times, tested them out in a local guitar store that has all Standards for 2015-2016. Tele-MIM, Strat-MIM, Strat-MIA. I was the only player on the block whose played one. Check alot of threads. No their not cheap.

Duncans pickups are subjetive.


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:20 am
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Arcmoon wrote:
Your comment about cheap is dead wrong.

When the going rate of the pickups is in the $25-30 range, I would say "cheap" is exactly the right word.

Arcmoon wrote:
Keep it nice.

Everything I have said has been providing information, to the best of my ability.
The only one who have resorted to personal attacks here isn't me.

Arcmoon wrote:
But cheap sounding their not.

Has anyone said they are?
"Cheap" when used without other qualifiers denotes price, not how something sounds.

From reading how you write, may I hazard a guess that English is not your primary language, and suggest that you overreact based on what you though was written, and not what was actually written?

If so, no hard feelings, but still try to not attack those who answer your questions.


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:45 am
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arth1 wrote:
Arcmoon wrote:
Your comment about cheap is dead wrong.

When the going rate of the pickups is in the $25-30 range, I would say "cheap" is exactly the right word.

Arcmoon wrote:
Keep it nice.

Everything I have said has been providing information, to the best of my ability.
The only one who have resorted to personal attacks here isn't me.

Arcmoon wrote:
But cheap sounding their not.

Has anyone said they are?
"Cheap" when used without other qualifiers denotes price, not how something sounds.

From reading how you write, may I hazard a guess that English is not your primary language, and suggest that you overreact based on what you though was written, and not what was actually written?

If so, no hard feelings, but still try to not attack those who answer your questions.

I appreciate your civility arth1.


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Post subject: Re: I bought a new HH Standard Strat MIM. What are the pups?
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:05 am
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Agreed.

The use of the word cheap applied to the cost. At no time did arth1 suggest the pickups sounded cheap.

I have a PRS Se semi hollow that had humbuckers in it. Sounded nice, but nothing special. I decided to look to try to emulate a sixties Harrison/Byrds jangly tone (recognizing this was not a 12 string).

I originally looked at buying TV Jones Classics but with tax and shipping they would have been over $400.00 CDN. Hard to justify on a guitar that only cost me $600.00.

I went with the much cheaper $100.00 GFS Retrotron Memphis pickups. And I'm very happy with them. Yep, they were "cheap" and I'm proud of that. They did what I was hoping for and they sound fine. That's the yardstick.


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