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Post subject: Problem fitting jeff beck pups
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:33 pm
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Hi guys,

I have a 62 RI strat and love the sound but tired of the 60 buzz so i ordered a set of jb hot noiseless pickups. The problem is that i didnt notice ( no info was there ) that the jb pups are almost 8mm taller than normall sc pickups ( stacked humbucker ) so it wouldnt fit. Anyone encountered similar problem ? What is your suggestion ? What can i do except routing the cavity ( i rather sell the pups than drill my instrument). Any ideas? Thanks in advance


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Post subject: Re: Problem fitting jeff beck pups
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:16 pm
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Fender's Vintage Noiseless, like the SCN's, are significantly taller than a traditional single-coil pickup. For a drop-in installation requiring no mods whatsoever, try a set of DiMarzio's Virtual Vintage noiseless. They'll fit just about any Strat or "SLO" without issue and they utilize standard 250KΩ volume and tone pots. Merely solder the pickups to your existing wiring harness and you're off to the races. As a bonus, they sound much more "strattier" than Fender's VN or SCN pickups IMO.

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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:32 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Fender's Vintage Noiseless, like the SCN's, are significantly taller than a traditional single-coil pickup. For a drop-in installation requiring no mods whatsoever, try a set of DiMarzio's Virtual Vintage noiseless. They'll fit just about any Strat or "SLO" without issue and they utilize standard 250KΩ volume and tone pots. Merely solder the pickups to your existing wiring harness and you're off to the races. As a bonus, they sound much more "strattier" than Fender's VN or SCN pickups IMO.

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thanks arjay. I was about to make the same mistake twice buy ordering vn. So the right question would be what regular size noiseless strat pickups are out there ? Dimarzio's are a little pricey , any other options ?


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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:47 pm
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"If the quality is long remembered, the price is soon forgotten." -- Confucius

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:39 pm
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"If the quality is long remembered, the price is soon forgotten." -- Confucius


This is one of the things that Arjay and I really agree on, and that should give people a pause. Yes, if you can afford it, go for the quality. Even if it means a little less versatility. It will pay back in the long run. The DiMarzios aren't just pricier to bilk you out of your money (although that's always a factor in our capitalist society, I'll be the first one to tell you), but they are quality. Quality is worth it, whether it's guitars, women, booze or cars.
I'd go without chicken wings and beer for a night, and get the DiMarzios instead. And be happy a thousand times down the road. And I think Arjay gets what I mean :)


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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:09 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
"If the quality is long remembered, the price is soon forgotten." -- Confucius

:wink:

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Post subject: Re: Problem fitting jeff beck pups
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:46 pm
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Kaveh, I'm sorry to hear about your pickup fitting problem. I have a MIM Standard Strat and the Hot Noiseless pickups fit. It's a shame that you will not have the opportunity to experience this pickup. I've been using the Hot Noiseless for almost 10 years and love it.


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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:36 am
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arth1 wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
"If the quality is long remembered, the price is soon forgotten." -- Confucius


This is one of the things that Arjay and I really agree on, and that should give people a pause. Yes, if you can afford it, go for the quality. Even if it means a little less versatility. It will pay back in the long run. The DiMarzios aren't just pricier to bilk you out of your money (although that's always a factor in our capitalist society, I'll be the first one to tell you), but they are quality. Quality is worth it, whether it's guitars, women, booze or cars.
I'd go without chicken wings and beer for a night, and get the DiMarzios instead. And be happy a thousand times down the road. And I think Arjay gets what I mean :)


I agree with you both but the thing is you wrongly blame your good old capitalistic society. Let me tell you something i come from Iran ,a sactioned society. For musicians this is hell itself. You can get a dimarzio area set ( which i fix my eyes upon ) for 220$ for me it will cost 500$ not to mention that i got my strat for 5.5k almost exactly the price of an LP or a custom shop strat. this is not a matter of few bucks for me its a few hundreds so dont blame a miserable sactioned strat guy to be damage cautious ;)
Anyways i will do as you say, what the hell we are talking quality here.


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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:07 am
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:?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

I'm not sure I blamed anybody.

For anything.

I merely tried to offer some constructive alternatives.

If I was out of line, please disregard everything I said.

:?

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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:20 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

I'm not sure I blamed anybody.

For anything.

I merely tried to offer some constructive alternatives.

If I was out of line, please disregard everything I said.

:?

Arjay



Dear arjay ,

that part was a response to rthl And please accept my appologies if it was offensive. And your advice was very usefull indeed. By the way what do you think of dimarzio area set and their combination ( 61,67,58) ? Judging by the demos i like them better than virtual blues ( same dimensions ). It would be great to know your opinion

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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:34 pm
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The Area 67 is too low-gain for my purposes but might work well if clean, mid-70's funk were the objective. I prefer hot pickups at both the bridge and neck positions, with a slightly cooler coil in the center. This yields a strattier "quack" vibe when using switch positions 2 or 4, and nice articulate cleans in position 3.

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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:40 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
"strattier" Arjay

:lol: I like it!
Fenderish? Stratafied? Telike? lol (I can't think of any more)


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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:42 pm
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Many of us here have understood "strattitude" for quite some time.

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Retroverbial wrote:
The Area 67 is too low-gain for my purposes but might work well if clean, mid-70's funk were the objective. I prefer hot pickups at both the bridge and neck positions, with a slightly cooler coil in the center. This yields a strattier "quack" vibe when using switch positions 2 or 4, and nice articulate cleans in position 3.

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Thanks man. May i ask what set up you recommend ? From what i can see in thier website, there are 3 options virtual vintage heavy blues 2, v v blues and v solo


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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:09 pm
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The choice of pickups is more a factor of the music style you prefer and play.

For hard rock, metal, grunge, and some types of blues, hotter pickups work better. For a cleaner sound such as jazz, traditional country, pop, and early rockabilly, lower gain is preferred. Thus, it's really up to you.

A good all-around set might be the Virtual Vintage Blues at the bridge, with the Area 58 and Area 61 in the middle and neck (respectively). Two of my Strats are configured like this and through a vintage Fender tube amp, they sound great. Ballsy when I need that type of tone, and mild-mannered when the situation demands it. This combination works well with most types/brands of pedals.

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