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Post subject: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:41 am
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Hi dear Fender Friends,

i just bought a Richie Sambora Stratocaster MK1. I am really wondering why this guitar has its serial number on a small metal plate on its headstock.

can somebody provide any information why that is? I have never seen a serial number on a little metal plate on a strat headstock before.

sincerely from germany, Dennis :)

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Post subject: Re: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:40 am
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To me, too, that kind of metal plate serial number is absolutely unfamiliar - on any Fender, from any country, from any era.

I don't want to alarm you, since I'm no expert on early Sambora signatures.
But, as far as I know, the form (no letters, just seven digits) of the serial number is also wrong for a Sambora MK1 (MIA/nineties/signature).
Adding to that, there are numerous copies of Sambora Strats available, from cheap oriental copies to made-by-a-fan-tributes to boutique versions (and the latter two may have been built with high quality Fender parts).

So (and sorry that I have to ask) are you sure the guitar is legit?


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Post subject: Re: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:33 pm
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Hi,

thanks for your reply!

I haven't recieved the guitar yet, but the seller is reputable. It's the store of Scorpions guitarist Matthias Jabs.
Telling from other photos it's a 1997 Sambora Strat in pretty good condition, i know These chinese knock Offs, and by telling from the Pictures, ist definitely not one of those.

I asked the store what is going on with this number plate and they stated the dont know for sure either. i think under the plate is a "classic" Serial number. i will tell when its arrived.


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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:24 pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:55 am
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I did as you and did a Google search. I found nothing that looked like the original picture.

On the plus side, it is so strange, one would assume a faker wouldn't add such diverse details.

What does the big chunk of metal do?

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Post subject: Re: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:52 am
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John Sims wrote:
What does the big chunk of metal do?

That's someone's ingenious idea of an allen key holder. Probably has some mystic tonal effects, too. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:49 am
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Hi guys,

it finally arrived! here are some pictures. BTW, the neck is dated 03. December 1996

Indeed very strange... only a plain "1997" under the plate ... i dont know why someone erase the serial number ... i hope it wasnt stolen or something :D

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Post subject: Re: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:31 pm
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To my ignorant eyes, it looks legit; model 110-2702-830, Artist signature series Richie Sambora Stratocaster.

But the lacking legit serial number rings the same "hope it wasn't stolen" bells for me - and LOUD...


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Post subject: Re: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:08 am
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jmattis wrote:

....But the lacking legit serial number rings the same "hope it wasn't stolen" bells for me - and LOUD...


Certainly something is amiss as why else would you obliterate a legitimate serial number.

Could it be a MiJ purporting to be an MiA?

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Post subject: Re: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:23 am
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I thought of Japan, too, but the (only one example, from mid-nineties) MIJ Sambora I've played had a recessed back plate, and no active electronics - thus also no battery routing. But as I said before, I'm no expert on these.


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Post subject: Re: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:57 pm
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hey guys,

another question regards the sambora.

This is my second Sambora i ever owned, the first one being a White one from 1995. I dont know if it is bad Memory, but somehow i think the midboost was stronger on the White one. does anybody got Information if they reduced the boost from 25db to 12db before the singlecoil sambora Version?


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Post subject: Re: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:18 am
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Hmm. Yep, the mid-boost was altered from 25dB to 12dB around 1999(?) - it was the same PCB, but with extra resistors doing the power drop.

But I've been under a vague assumption that the big stars versions had the 25dB booster…
Any pics from inside (wiring etc.)?


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Post subject: Re: Question about serial number plate
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:48 am
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I will take the guitar apart in a few days and then i will post pictures.

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